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Old 05-23-2013, 12:49 PM   #1606
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Funny thing is a just brought that stupid Motion Pro tool. The damn locals where I live have stolen 3 sets of my valve core removal caps so had to break down and buy the tool to keep in my tool kit now. Otherwise no reason to not go with the air caps in my eyes.
I keep a couple of spare valve core removal caps and valves in the patch kit. Twice I have had valves fail to seal after checking pressures.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:18 PM   #1607
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I use neither. I think this cost me about $2.98.

This tool induces rage, I really need to throw it away one day. The little arms hit the spokes and prevents more than a quarter turn at a time, on a good day.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:23 PM   #1608
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This tool induces rage, I really need to throw it away one day. The little arms hit the spokes and prevents more than a quarter turn at a time, on a good day.
I just took the tool, put it in my vice and broke the piece that hits the spoke out of the core tool.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:18 AM   #1609
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Huh, I thought it was a rage inducer that happened to have a valve core removal option on it.

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Old 05-28-2013, 01:12 PM   #1610
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This tool induces rage, I really need to throw it away one day. The little arms hit the spokes and prevents more than a quarter turn at a time, on a good day.

lol...I too found the same problem until I just used the angle grinder to cut them short...with enough of a grip to turn it...

Glad I'm not the only one found it somewhat aggravating

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Old 05-28-2013, 09:10 PM   #1611
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Tool friends, I have a question, since we're talking tires.

Why do guys use these:


Instead of these:
Made this over 20 years ago. Some red loctite on the threads and it has never failed me!

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Old 05-29-2013, 07:47 PM   #1612
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Black zip tool bag in bottom on LH pannier
5.2 lbs

Mini mag lite (AA) powered
3 way 12-13-14mm wrench
spoke wrench
craftsman Ό” drive set
with 5-13mm six point sockets
1” ext, 3” extension
Ό” drive wrench
one piece torx wrench set
t9, t10, t15,t20,t25,t27,t30,t40
one piece metric allen knife style set
1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6mm
3 pcs motion pro tire iron set (2) 8” and one 10”
7” cresent style wrench
6” channel lock style pliers
12, 13, 14mm combination wrench
6” needle nose vise grips
6 x 12 terry cloth towel
approx 25 misc zip ties




mini tool bag (in tank bag or rear truck) always on everybike
1.6 lbs
Mini mag lite (AA) powered
Air gauge
10mm combination wrench
3 way 8-10-12mm wrench
3/8” open / 7/16 box end timing wrench (tobinator adjustment)
t30 torx allen style (tobinator adjustment wrench)
large folding lock back knife
tusk multi tool with
sm Ph, lg ph, sm str, lg str, screwdrivers
and 4, 5, 6mm allen tools
8 alcohol wipes
4” diagonal cutters
5” needle nose pliers
2 small trerry cloth rags
1 small rough scrubber




bmw stock kit (modified) always under bike seat
4.6 lbs
bmw tool roll
Stanley multi screwdriver with
#1, #2 ph and (2) str screwdriver tips
t-45 torx with Ό” drive adapter (rear brake removal tool)
8,10,12,13,14,15 combination wrench set
1 tiny straight screwdriver
2.5,3,4,5,6,8,10mm allen set
10mm combination wrench (valve adjustment wrench)
17mm combination wrench
bmw front shock adjustment wrench
4.5, 5, 6, 8mm allen wrench
bmw rear lug wrench w/ extension
bmw spark plug tool (long reach)
weird bmw tool (unknown)
t-40 and t45 torx allen style wrenches
(20) medium zip ties



tools/extras stashed on BMW
extra fuses
12 volt test light
black electrical tape
led flash light
(2) night sticks (illumination sticks)

electrical tools in grey zip bag
1.4 lbs
mini dmm
(4) clip leads
1 roll several feet of duplex 18ga wire
8ga mini jumper cables

tire fix kit in blue zip bag
1.2 lbs
screwdriver style tubeless tire fix kit
with 8 pre glued tire plugs
1 6oz can of inflatable tire sealer
(2) night glow stick one green one orange
slime mini compressor
bicycle style hand pump
bmw powerlet male to cigarette female extension cord
small tube patch kit



bmw spare parts
1.8 lbs
HES (new untested uninstalled)
Alternator belt (new) 4K233
H1 headlight bulb
Spare fuses
Spare tail light bulb
Metal fuel QD str kit (beemer boneyard) w/ several orings
Metal fuel QD 90d kit
Old spark plugs from last change
6 medium zip ties
(4) footman loop bolts w/ washers and lock nuts
fuel line splice kit (for QD failure)

OH SHIT bag
1.4 lbs
waterweld putty
1:1 epoxy syringe type
magnum steel metal patch kit
(2) night glow stick one green one orange
JB weld QUIK kit
Nylon 10ft tow strap
Approx 20 ft black duct tape
JB weld standard kit
20 misc zip ties
(2) large auto tube rubber bands
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Old 06-01-2013, 02:23 PM   #1613
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My tool works like a charm

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Old 06-01-2013, 02:48 PM   #1614
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My tool works like a charm

Yeah, that'll work out here.

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Old 06-01-2013, 02:49 PM   #1615
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Yeah, that'll work out here.


Wat you didn't get the heli-coverage
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Old 06-01-2013, 03:07 PM   #1616
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Jsb223, that is an excellent post. You've got some well thought out tool kits. Thanks for taking the time to detail them for us. It gave me a couple of ideas for my own kit.
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Old 06-01-2013, 03:34 PM   #1617
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This tool induces rage, I really need to throw it away one day. The little arms hit the spokes and prevents more than a quarter turn at a time, on a good day.


I pressed out the cross member so it is smaller, and fits in my OB tampon container. It has splines that are simply press-fit. I can push it back if leverage is needed. Also, of course, separated, it doesn't hit the spokes.

I also have a stem cap remover on my front, but I like redundancy.

OB containers are great. Holds soap, spare nut, valve core, cap,and stem fish-tool in a tidy package. Save a few while your household still uses them.

Since the photo, I used a vacuum sealer to seal a baby powder dusted tube inside, which reduces bulk some. This kit, plus three 8" tire irons fits in my Wolfman tool bag with lots of room to spare.



I didn't like a fender bag when I tried one on the WRR as it interfered with the headlight, and it didn't hold enough stuff.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:42 PM   #1618
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Black zip tool bag in bottom on LH pannier
5.2 lbs

Mini mag lite (AA) powered
3 way 12-13-14mm wrench
spoke wrench
craftsman Ό” drive set
with 5-13mm six point sockets
1” ext, 3” extension
Ό” drive wrench
one piece torx wrench set
t9, t10, t15,t20,t25,t27,t30,t40
one piece metric allen knife style set
1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6mm
3 pcs motion pro tire iron set (2) 8” and one 10”
7” cresent style wrench
6” channel lock style pliers
12, 13, 14mm combination wrench
6” needle nose vise grips
6 x 12 terry cloth towel
approx 25 misc zip ties




mini tool bag (in tank bag or rear truck) always on everybike
1.6 lbs
Mini mag lite (AA) powered
Air gauge
10mm combination wrench
3 way 8-10-12mm wrench
3/8” open / 7/16 box end timing wrench (tobinator adjustment)
t30 torx allen style (tobinator adjustment wrench)
large folding lock back knife
tusk multi tool with
sm Ph, lg ph, sm str, lg str, screwdrivers
and 4, 5, 6mm allen tools
8 alcohol wipes
4” diagonal cutters
5” needle nose pliers
2 small trerry cloth rags
1 small rough scrubber




bmw stock kit (modified) always under bike seat
4.6 lbs
bmw tool roll
Stanley multi screwdriver with
#1, #2 ph and (2) str screwdriver tips
t-45 torx with Ό” drive adapter (rear brake removal tool)
8,10,12,13,14,15 combination wrench set
1 tiny straight screwdriver
2.5,3,4,5,6,8,10mm allen set
10mm combination wrench (valve adjustment wrench)
17mm combination wrench
bmw front shock adjustment wrench
4.5, 5, 6, 8mm allen wrench
bmw rear lug wrench w/ extension
bmw spark plug tool (long reach)
weird bmw tool (unknown)
t-40 and t45 torx allen style wrenches
(20) medium zip ties



tools/extras stashed on BMW
extra fuses
12 volt test light
black electrical tape
led flash light
(2) night sticks (illumination sticks)

electrical tools in grey zip bag
1.4 lbs
mini dmm
(4) clip leads
1 roll several feet of duplex 18ga wire
8ga mini jumper cables

tire fix kit in blue zip bag
1.2 lbs
screwdriver style tubeless tire fix kit
with 8 pre glued tire plugs
1 6oz can of inflatable tire sealer
(2) night glow stick one green one orange
slime mini compressor
bicycle style hand pump
bmw powerlet male to cigarette female extension cord
small tube patch kit



bmw spare parts
1.8 lbs
HES (new untested uninstalled)
Alternator belt (new) 4K233
H1 headlight bulb
Spare fuses
Spare tail light bulb
Metal fuel QD str kit (beemer boneyard) w/ several orings
Metal fuel QD 90d kit
Old spark plugs from last change
6 medium zip ties
(4) footman loop bolts w/ washers and lock nuts
fuel line splice kit (for QD failure)

OH SHIT bag
1.4 lbs
waterweld putty
1:1 epoxy syringe type
magnum steel metal patch kit
(2) night glow stick one green one orange
JB weld QUIK kit
Nylon 10ft tow strap
Approx 20 ft black duct tape
JB weld standard kit
20 misc zip ties
(2) large auto tube rubber bands
Jebus, I think you should just stay home.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:31 PM   #1619
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I like this self-rescue discussion. A z-drag kit is versatile, relatively small, and worthy to include on certain trips/excursions. Atleast one per group. If searching for a kit it may be beneficial to look into the whitewater rafting/kayaking industry... When I worked as a guide it was standard procedure to carry one z-drag kit on each trip for rescuing severely pinned rafts.

Here's a link... Although pretty damn expensive.
http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=1818

And here's a link to a whitewater forum discussing extra helpful items to include in a z-drag kit kit (I like the tip about using rock climbing cams/nuts as alternate anchor points... Could be useful for us in very rocky terrain).
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f...k-36701-3.html
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:56 PM   #1620
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I also notice the topic of tire changing has come up...

So what's everyones opinion on mini-compressors versus CO2 inflators versus small handheld bicycle pumps??? It seems like most folks use a mini-compressor... Why?

I'm sure there are pros/cons with each option... Some I guess are obvious:

mini-compressor
+: Easy work/no pumping, no need to buy additional replacement parts (think CO2 carttridges)
-: Gotta have power to operate it, more moving parts = increased chances of failure, more bulky than other options

handheld bicycle pump
+: compact, No power required to operate, less moving parts = decreased chance of failure, No need to buy replacement parts
-: hard/lengthy work

CO2 inflator
+: small and compact, quick/easy inflating, minimal moving parts, no power required to operate
-: Need to replace/buy cartridges, run out of cartridges trailside = f'ed, maybe harder to get accurate pressure (?)

Admittingly I haven't had to use any of these options for inflating a tire (yet!) so if the answer to my question is obvious I apologize. I use tubes and have been carrying my small handheld bicycle pump thus far and am considering if it's necessary/highly advantageous to purchase a minicompressor or CO2 inflator... Or just stick with what I already have for emergencies??

... Thanks!
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