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Old 09-13-2011, 11:38 AM   #1186
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The 3/8" side is notched to allow for the socket to wobble. You could not do that if it was 1/4 because there would not be enough metal and it would break.
Actually, Snap-On makes a 1/4" wobble extension that works quite well. I have one as part of my tool kit and have been using it with 8, 10, and 12mm sockets no problem. I wouldn't put too much torque on it, but so far it's held up to everything I have thrown at it. I would not depend on a 1/4" wobble extension that wasn't made by a high quality tool supplier.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

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Old 09-13-2011, 11:43 AM   #1187
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Re: Snap-on extension


Thanks for the link.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:56 PM   #1188
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The 3/8" side is notched to allow for the socket to wobble. You could not do that if it was 1/4 because there would not be enough metal and it would break. The 1/4" side is designed to take a wrench to break nuts free if needed and then use a weaker and shorter 1/4" drive to finish. If that side was 3/8" then the "nut" part would be huge and then clearance could become an issue and it may not fit any wrench in a standard tool kit.

Bottom line is that it is designed as a compromise tool that does several things and when you do that you lose function somewhere. Here that lost function is a 1/4" drive extension. Just look at it as a long 1/4 to 3/8 adapter.

I see now says the blind man. Thanks for the great explanation.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:05 PM   #1189
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Actually, Snap-On makes a 1/4" wobble extension that works quite well. I have one as part of my tool kit and have been using it with 8, 10, and 12mm sockets no problem. I wouldn't put too much torque on it, but so far it's held up to everything I have thrown at it. I would not depend on a 1/4" wobble extension that wasn't made by a high quality tool supplier.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog



Great find, very nice. Sad thing is I'm in Thailand and not too many Snap On trucks floating around here, haha.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:26 PM   #1190
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My kit

Here's the kit I put together for an XR650L and a CRF230F. I can do all basic maintenance and trail repairs with this. There are a couple of extra things that I'll hopefully get rid of at some point, such as the T45 torx wrench which is only needed for the skidplate- I'll just replace those bolts with something else.

I'm not including spare parts or consumable items like JB weld in this, just the tools.

After I took this picture, I added the spoke wrench for the CRF230 after I ground half the material away, I chopped the valvestem tool down, and I ground the 18mm spark plug socket down to reduce weight and also to enable me to use the 19mm wrench on it. I also threw in a Leatherman Skeletool for a knife blade.

I could probably get rid of some of this stuff, but this set of tools makes the work go quickly while adding a little bit of redundancy in case something is lost or broken.

Weight of the tools plus tool roll is just over 5 1/2 pounds (~2.5kg).

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  • Motion pro tire irons (12-13mm and 24mm), these are great.
  • Motion pro 24mm adapter - adapts 1/4" to 3/8" drive, functions as a spinner, turns tire iron into socket wrench.
  • Craftsman 1/4" breaker bar thing - gives you a T handle or breaker bar.
  • Snap-On 4" 1/4" drive wobble extension - makes it easy to adjust the valves, etc.
  • Snap-On 4" 3/8" drive extension - knurled shaft helps to make up for the lack of a ratchet.
  • Snap-On 3/8" to 1/4" adapter.
  • Snap-On 24mm socket - only needed for oil change on the CRF230.
  • Snap-On 17mm socket - front axles.
  • Craftsman 14, 13, 12, 10, 8, 7, 6mm sockets. The 13 is only needed for a couple of non-OEM bolts which could be replaced, and the 7 and 6 are only needed for carb jetting, but they are small.
  • Wera stubby screwdriver and some 1/4" bits for it. Also a 1/4" socket for the rare cases where I need a long screwdriver.
  • Motion Pro allen wrench set. The largest 2 wrenches have been cut down to save weight and space and they work with the sockets. The smallest allen wrenches aren't needed but they are small and light and might come in handy for something.
  • One extra, shorter allen wrench that I will probably remove from the kit unless it helps me change the carb jets without removing the carb.
  • 1/8" allen for the one non-metric fastener on the XR.
  • Motion Pro 18mm spark plug socket, works on both bikes. It works with one of the allen wrenches, or a 3/8" socket wrench, or I ground it down to work with the 19mm wrench. It was really heavy, and still is heavy, but I need it for reaching the plug in the RFVC head with that big Acerbis 5.8 gallon tank on there.
  • Light stick, it glows.
  • Snap-On 17mm/19mm wrench for one side of rear axle or for the chain tool, etc.
  • Snap-On vise grips, good for when pliers are needed or if a shift lever is broken off.
  • A couple of lighters.
  • Fine sandpaper.
  • T45 Torx wrench, only needed for a skidplate.
  • Feeler gauges for valve adjustments.
  • Motion Pro TiProLight titanium wrenches. They work. They are very light.
  • Small file.
  • Valve stem grabber tool.
  • Terra-X chain tool. Will break chain, and press and rivet master links.
  • Sawzall blade, can be used with the vise grips... to cut stuff!
  • Napa tire gauge 0-45psi.
  • Carb pilot screw bit for tuning the CRF230.
  • Motion Pro spoke wrench for XR650L.
  • OEM spoke wrench for CRF230, with lots of material removed (not pictured).
  • Leatherman Skeletool (not pictured).
  • Greenlee PDMM20 Pocket Multimeter (not pictured or packed with these tools). Very capable meter given its tiny size.
  • BestRest CyclePump- plugs into the beefy electrical system that I installed on the XRL (not pictured or packed with these tools).






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Old 09-13-2011, 09:27 PM   #1191
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Great find, very nice. Sad thing is I'm in Thailand and not too many Snap On trucks floating around here, haha.
You may be able to buy direct from their web site... not sure.
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:44 AM   #1192
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Just skimmed through all 79 pages of this thread, and have found some very creative ideas, and am now putting together a personalized kit.

Just curious: does anybody pack a cordless Dremel or other rotary tool?



They're quite versatile, and are relatively small and lightweight. I can think of a few uses for one on the trail:

1. Drilling holes into plastics so zip ties or bailing wire can be used to stitch together fenders, etc.
2. Cutting apart mangled chains, or misc. post-crash parts.
3. Prepping parts for Quiksteel
4. Carry extra long spare bolts, so they can be cut to size when needed

These new Lithium Ion ones hold a charge for 2 years on the shelf, so no worries if you don't use it often.

I carry a cheap alternative when in more remote areas. One thing its great for is prepping a tube for a patch, the roll sander attachment will scuff and clean a tube like a professional tool. Here's the one I pack, much smaller and lighter than a battery Dremel. It is $9.99 at Harbor Freight, sometimes on sale as low as $4.99. HF says it runs on 110vac, but the 12v wall wart it comes with won't supply enough current. However, if you plug it into 12vdc through a SAE plug, it runs great, no battery dead weight in the tool bag either.



http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...kit-97626.html

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Old 09-17-2011, 06:19 PM   #1193
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Okay folks-

Tire plugs/patch kits, which ones have been the "best" with actual use?
Anyone use the mushroom style

I carry the black little sticky worm things, but
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:08 PM   #1194
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Okay folks-

Tire plugs/patch kits, which ones have been the "best" with actual use?
Anyone use the mushroom style

I carry the black little sticky worm things, but
The black worms are good but not quite as pliable as the reddish ones, but they'll be fine. The tools can be had at a dollar store or walmart for a few bucks. I've plugged 100s of tires, (dad and uncles owned body shops/garages). The mushroom type can't be relied upon.
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:02 PM   #1195
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A freakin' dremel? Seriously?
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:15 PM   #1196
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A freakin' dremel? Seriously?
Gots to fill up them big aluminium boxxes, man!
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:28 AM   #1197
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Motion Pro Trail Tool Kit

Came across this the other day. I bought one for my new Tigger toolkit - it's exactly the same as my other one that I bought for twice the price direct from Motion Pro.

No affiliation, just thought it was a great deal on an excellent bit of kit.

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Old 09-19-2011, 01:45 PM   #1198
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Thanks for the heads-up on the Motion Pro tool, Merc. That's a serious deal.
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:09 PM   #1199
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Got it

Just ordered one myself, should help cut down on some of the tools I am carrying.
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:18 PM   #1200
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radiator stopleak

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with any type of Radiator Stop-leak product.

I'm asking because this past weekend, my buddy tossed my DRZ over a log and crushed the Radiator a little. We were able to ride it out of the woods, but lost most or all of the coolant in the process. Don't know the long-term implications of this yet, but am wondering now that if I there is something to stop the hemorrhaging coolant if it ever (when?) happens again.
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