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Old 07-24-2012, 05:38 AM   #1351
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A tool fanny pack is all well and good until you land on it in a crash. I would not recommend carrying your tools this way unless you are one of those riders who never crash...
get a revit Sand or cayenne jacket instead of fanny pack. The only stuff on you should be your warn liner and or rain suit tucked in the back pocket, papers, tissues for visor, anything soft, and maybe cellphone (which I would put in the front so it has slightly better chances not to break when you fall and need to call for help...). That is, only if you reall have no other luggage space.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:35 AM   #1352
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Carrying a tool pack or anything else on your waist/back is less of a concern if you wear some kind of a hard-shell back protector. Wear a Rock Gardn Flak Jacket off-road and a Dainese back protector on-road, and haul my backpack full of all kinds of bulky shit around with me everywhere I go.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:53 AM   #1353
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A tool fanny pack is all well and good until you land on it in a crash. I would not recommend carrying your tools this way unless you are one of those riders who never crash...

so you should NEVER get a fanny pack tool kit
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:52 PM   #1354
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A tool fanny pack is all well and good until you land on it in a crash. I would not recommend carrying your tools this way unless you are one of those riders who never crash...
I wear mine over a kidney belt. Been down on it so many times I couldn't count, hasn't been an issue.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:21 PM   #1355
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so you should NEVER get a fanny pack tool kit
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I wear mine over a kidney belt. Been down on it so many times I couldn't count, hasn't been an issue.
Ok, I stand corrected...
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:12 PM   #1356
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Just realized that it's been about four years since I first put together a toolkit about four years ago after reading through this thread. This is what my tool roll looks like these days. Use these tools pretty much exclusively any time I'm working on any of our bikes, so carry a few more sockets and wrenches and things than I'd need to if I was only using this as a trail toolkit. Still hauling around that same DaKine bag, which is holding up pretty well considering how it gets treated, and I haven't found any better replacement for it.







Started carrying a few tools that I don't need very often (like axle wrenches and tire levers) on my bike. Robo-Boogie has taken this a step farther and has tucked all of his tools away into little nooks and crannies on his bike.




Swapped-out a few tools for smaller/lighter versions, like this shorter 8mm allen wrench. Eliminated some redundant tools, replaced shitty tools with better ones, etc.




Anybody know where we can get higher quality tool bits? These little things give me all kinds of trouble.

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Old 10-31-2012, 03:50 PM   #1357
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Good to revisit the contents of a tool kit. Christmas is coming and you can ask for stocking stuffers.

Less than three pounds! Very nice.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:48 PM   #1358
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Thanks for revisiting this thread. I have been modifying mine for a bit now that I am back into the advmoto thing. I will post pictures soon of what I have come up with...

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Old 10-31-2012, 06:02 PM   #1359
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"Anybody know where we can get higher quality tool bits? These little things give me all kinds of trouble."

We use Apex brand in aviation, seem to hold up very well.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:33 PM   #1360
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"Anybody know where we can get higher quality tool bits? These little things give me all kinds of trouble."

We use Apex brand in aviation, seem to hold up very well.
Wiha bits have a good rep.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:17 PM   #1361
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We use Apex brand in aviation, seem to hold up very well.
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Wiha bits have a good rep.
Thanks. Those look like two good options.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:00 AM   #1362
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"Anybody know where we can get higher quality tool bits? These little things give me all kinds of trouble."

We use Apex brand in aviation, seem to hold up very well.
Work in aviation too. I have seen some "mechanics" get lazy and use a #8 four-wing Torq in a #10 four-wing Torq slot or #8/#10 four-wing Torq in a #1/4" four-wing Torq slot with various results. The bits break after a while and the screw slots inevitably end up getting buggered.

I'll have to check and see who we use, but I think it comes down to whichever way the wind is blowing sometimes considering at times I've eaten up bits like popcorn at the movies and other times one bit will suffice for weeks on end.

Maybe this is obvious, maybe not...

Several things that help you break bits:
  • The blades are not a correct fit for the slot/recess they need to fit.
  • Dirt or some-other foreign matter in the slot/recess causing a high-stress point on a blade whereby the torque applied is multiplied many times over resulting in...
  • Damaged blades, starting twists or bends.
  • Lousy material, low quality.
  • On occasion, the screw is over-torqued or just "fused" in-place and needs to be loosened by some other means. The amount of pressure or torque applied to overcome that resistance is just too high for the fastener to be released and the bit just goes beyond it's design limits.

Some solutions to mitigate problems are:
  • Use high quality bits.
  • Make sure the slots/recess of the screws are as clean as possible.
  • Use the correct size bit for the screw.
  • Replace damaged bits.
  • Replaced damage screws.
  • Use the proper torque if known, required or stated.

And have several spares on hand...
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:35 AM   #1363
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Work in aviation too. I have seen some "mechanics" get lazy and use a #8 four-wing Torq in a #10 four-wing Torq slot or #8/#10 four-wing Torq in a #1/4" four-wing Torq slot with various results. The bits break after a while and the screw slots inevitably end up getting buggered.

I'll have to check and see who we use, but I think it comes down to whichever way the wind is blowing sometimes considering at times I've eaten up bits like popcorn at the movies and other times one bit will suffice for weeks on end.

Maybe this is obvious, maybe not...

Several things that help you break bits:
  • The blades are not a correct fit for the slot/recess they need to fit.
  • Dirt or some-other foreign matter in the slot/recess causing a high-stress point on a blade whereby the torque applied is multiplied many times over resulting in...
  • Damaged blades, starting twists or bends.
  • Lousy material, low quality.
  • On occasion, the screw is over-torqued or just "fused" in-place and needs to be loosened by some other means. The amount of pressure or torque applied to overcome that resistance is just too high for the fastener to be released and the bit just goes beyond it's design limits.
Some solutions to mitigate problems are:
  • Use high quality bits.
  • Make sure the slots/recess of the screws are as clean as possible.
  • Use the correct size bit for the screw.
  • Replace damaged bits.
  • Replaced damage screws.
  • Use the proper torque if known, required or stated.
And have several spares on hand...

Also when the fastener wont budge, try tightening it first, it works!
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:03 AM   #1364
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Also when the fastener wont budge, try tightening it first, it works!
^^^Good advice. Has worked many times for me.

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Old 11-08-2012, 12:55 AM   #1365
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The above suggestion are good ideas once everything else is correct. Some type of impact wrench or driver can be useful too. The desired usefulness can also be construed as a measure of how much damage you want to perform on the side of your hand or the fastener you want remove or even the item that the fastener is attached to if you're using the hammer/mallet assisted type - what fun!
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