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Old 12-07-2012, 07:00 AM   #1396
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Brick - I've got the Trak Tools kit but not the axle wrench set. It's well made and I keep it in the tank bag when I don't have the big tool kit with me.



It's nice and compact and I like it - well made, good for smaller bolts and such but not high torque - the t-handle is small diameter and short so it's hard to get a lot of torque with it, but that's not what it was designed for. Gives you a wrench handle/screwdriver as opposed to just a 1/4" ratchet.

T-handle fits into bit holder and then fits into the main body for storage. There are small allen screws that can be tightened to hold the bits tightly in the bit holder, and the accompanying allen wrench is tip is built into the base of the main body. The brass ring slides back and forth to lock the bit holder in the body.


I like their idea for the axle wrench and have wondered why something similar hasn't been done for standard wrench sizes - a universal handle, with snap in wrench heads. Or even a 3/8 6" extension as a handle with wrench heads that snap into/onto the extension.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:37 AM   #1397
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I don΄t think they exist any more. Their website is not working as far as I can see. But it seems they have had good reviews from people who bought their kits.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:06 AM   #1398
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they look interesting chaparral has them listed

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Prod.../003-0031.aspx
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:29 AM   #1399
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Tommu thx - can't seem to find the heads for it tho - saw this on there as well - anyone used one of these for any length of time?

Says it fits 8-25mm and eliminates the normal slop of an adjustable - about $35.

http://www.baronscustom.com/catalog/...215/index.html






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Old 12-07-2012, 06:38 PM   #1400
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:50 PM   #1401
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...have wondered why something similar hasn't been done for standard wrench sizes - a universal handle, with snap in wrench heads. Or even a 3/8 6" extension as a handle with wrench heads that snap into/onto the extension.
Think we're probably going to end up making something like these for 1/4" socket drivers (would use an extension as the handle).
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:23 AM   #1402
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This trak-tools kit has a couple of the open end wrenches (10mm, 12mm) that fit a 1/4" bit drive.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Prod.../003-0021.aspx

I wonder how these kits compare in size and function to the Motion-Pro MP kit?: http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0161/

I own one of the MP kits, have heard good and bad about it (and am not engaged to it). Every kit has some compromises it seems.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:07 AM   #1403
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This trak-tools kit has a couple of the open end wrenches (10mm, 12mm) that fit a 1/4" bit drive.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Prod.../003-0021.aspx

I wonder how these kits compare in size and function to the Motion-Pro MP kit?: http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0161/

I own one of the MP kits, have heard good and bad about it (and am not engaged to it). Every kit has some compromises it seems.

I called Chaparral yesterday and they aren't going to carry the axle wrenches any more and only had one handle in stock no heads.

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:45 AM   #1404
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Think we're probably going to end up making something like these for 1/4" socket drivers (would use an extension as the handle).

I'd be interested in using these in conjunction with my modified Motio Pro MP tool that I wrote about earlier in the thread. One question is I use wrenches generally for my high torque needs and the 1/4 drive Motion Pro tool for convenience. Jesus do you have a concern the 1/4" drive based wrench ends will be able to handle the torque needed for breaking loose stubborn bolts up 12mm -14mm? What;s your thoughts on this? Whats the largest size you're thinking of producing?

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Old 12-08-2012, 10:12 AM   #1405
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Yeah, I think a high-quality 1/4" extension would be fine for 7/8/10/12/13/14mm bolts, but the only thing I'd want to use a 17mm on would be something like a float bowl. Will have to run these things through FEA to confirm, but think they'll be plenty strong enough for smaller hardware and will save a bit of space without have any real downsides that are typically associated with multi-tools.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:47 PM   #1406
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Found these..... seem usefull

Clever...ordered 27mm and 32mm. By accident also ordered Leg Pegs from same web site, never seen before but will give them a try http://www.mxsouth.com/uniteddistrib...s-leg-pegs.htm (sorry bit of topic there...).

Another tip, guy I met claimed that tyre foam worked also for tyres with tubes, as a limb home solution. Then later same day another guy had a flat...and it worked!
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:38 PM   #1407
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Yeah, I think a high-quality 1/4" extension would be fine for 7/8/10/12/13/14mm bolts, but the only thing I'd want to use a 17mm on would be something like a float bowl. Will have to run these things through FEA to confirm, but think they'll be plenty strong enough for smaller hardware and will save a bit of space without have any real downsides that are typically associated with multi-tools.

Thanks for the answer. Hope the tests prove out for you.

I'm a huge proponent for minimizing the load and anything that saves weight and space I'm a supporter. I've transitioned from a 1/4" T handle driver and socket bits to the Motion Pro (but weld the damn piece like I posted about earlier in the thread) to save some weight/space. In addition to the sockets it has replaced my screwdriver which is nice. The hex bits I prefer L shapped hexes for my carb work.

Two concerns I have with something like this idea Jesusgatos:

A place where these may not be able to replace your wrench set is when you need two wrenches at once ie adjusting a chain.

Second is I would be giving up the box end part of the wrench which is the portion of the wrench used to break loose or torque down bolts. I would be nervous only having the open end of the wrench and nothing else. Any thoughts on this?

Currently utulizing stubby wrenches to save a bit if weight/space but not enough time on them to pass judgement.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:36 AM   #1408
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From my experience, and for the reasons you mentioned, it pays to carry duplicate tools.
Last time when I only had stubby wrenches I couldn't do anything with them because of small leverage. But, I do know there is one bolt on my bike that I can only access with a stubby wrench without removing body panels. Same goes for short and long HEX drivers.
It's best to tailor the toolkit around given bike and it's expected faults or maintenance. You can save a lot of weight and bulk in that way.
You can lock the closed end of another stubby into the open end of the wrench you are using on the bolt for more leverage....
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:38 AM   #1409
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FTB,

From my experience, and for the reasons you mentioned, it pays to carry duplicate tools.
Last time when I only had stubby wrenches I couldn't do anything with them because of small leverage. But, I do know there is one bolt on my bike that I can only access with a stubby wrench without removing body panels. Same goes for short and long HEX drivers.
It's best to tailor the toolkit around given bike and it's expected faults or maintenance. You can save a lot of weight and bulk in that way.

use 2 wrenches



of course you would be using 2 stubby's
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FTB,

From my experience, and for the reasons you mentioned, it pays to carry duplicate tools.
Last time when I only had stubby wrenches I couldn't do anything with them because of small leverage. But, I do know there is one bolt on my bike that I can only access with a stubby wrench without removing body panels. Same goes for short and long HEX drivers.
It's best to tailor the toolkit around given bike and it's expected faults or maintenance. You can save a lot of weight and bulk in that way.

What you are saying about tailoring the tool kit to the bike in my experience has allowed me not to have to carry duplicate tools. This is why I continue to carry the L shape hexes as it provides more efficient access to my carb than the Motion Pro MP hexes allow. I do all my work on the bike with only the tools in my toolkit, this quickly lets me know what does and does not work effectively. The risk i run with not carrying duplicates is if I lose or break a tool. Then I'm hosed. Where's some wood to knock on.

One place I can forsee the stubby wrenches having an issue is if you need the length of a full size wrench to access a hidden bolt head that you could not get to with your socket. So far though on my bikes I have yet to come across it.

+3 on using two wrenches for leverage. Not as nice and quick as a full size wrench but so far have busted loose drain plugs, cylinders etc. without issue.

Thanks for the tips.
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