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Old 09-10-2007, 01:26 PM   #46
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OK....just got of the phone with Yamaha.

I started with customer service and then got transferred to a "Product Specialist"....at least I think that was the title.

Was able to talk to someone one-on-one and he at least listened to what I had to say. Didn't criticize the new bike at all (because I can fix whatever I see as shortcomings myself)...just ask that it come here.

At least they are listening.

Give it a try

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Old 09-10-2007, 01:29 PM   #47
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sorry, I've posted my german photoshop pic. Here comes
the english version

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Old 09-10-2007, 01:45 PM   #48
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If it is over 400lbs, I don't see anything that would be better than my F650GS Dakar other than an extra front disc. I'll take a pass.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:48 PM   #49
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These kind of visuals do not go well with my nicorette gum and coffee nipple drink, way too many palpitations
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:49 PM   #50
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i am holding out for a F650X Adventure!
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:50 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by ditchbanker
I really wish Japan would start putting a 6th speed overdrive on thier thumpers.
+1 bazillion!

And more than 8" of suspension travel...
At least they gave it a 21" front and spoked wheels.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:56 PM   #52
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i am holding out for a F650X Adventure!
No, I won't as I've been waiting for a bike like this for some years now.
I will sell my KTM 640 Adv for it.
The KTM sure has more power, sure is more offroad, sure is more
challenging, but... I need the reliable function of a Yamaha with
it's long service intervals.
KTM 690=5.000 km
XT660=10.000 km AND RELIABLE.

Sorry, I'm just a little out-of-tune, because my KTM's LC4 engine
causes nothing but trouble. Never had that with one of those
boring japanese bikes.
I bought a brandnew KTM LC4 in 1992 and trouble was the same.
Never ever again! Power means nothing without reliability!

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Old 09-10-2007, 02:01 PM   #53
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If there was even any hope of them bringing one over here - I'd be holding out for an updated XTZ750+ Super Tenere.

Sadly this being the home of the cruiser and all things chrome and bling. We aint going to see either the Tenere or the super Tenere

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Old 09-10-2007, 02:04 PM   #54
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well put.. as for this not being any better than a F650GS... First, it looks way better than the GS (subjective, I know) but if it is basically a version of the XT-660, I would imagine that it is significantly less expensive than the GS. Also, from the looks of it, this bike is waaaay more dropable than the GS. The protection and location of parts just makes sense.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:06 PM   #55
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Sadly this being the home of the cruiser and all things chrome and bling. We aint going to see either the Tenere or the super Tenere
I can hardly believe, that Yamaha won't bring the Tenere in the United States.
You live in the country of adventure, offroad and the Marlboro Man.
Over here in Germany we are not allowed to go offroad anywhere!

I don't think an XT with a bigger engine would be better. You cannot
go fast in the US (legally) anyhow. And I would never ride the Autobahn
with a dual-sport. Only for some important shortcuts, but not for long.
And on the country roads you are only allowed 100 km/h which is no
problem even with a 250cc bike.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:11 PM   #56
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I can hardly believe, that Yamaha won't bring the Tenere in the United States.
You live in the country of adventure, offroad and the Marlboro Man.
Over here in Germany we are not allowed to go offroad anywhere!

I don't think an XT with a bigger engine would be better. You cannot
go fast in the US (legally) anyhow. And I would never ride the Autobahn
with a dual-sport. Only for some important shortcuts, but not for long.
And on the country roads you are only allowed 100 km/h which is no
problem even with a 250cc bike.
Kind regards, Svenja Svendura
Europe may have fewer offroading areas, however your riders still typically have better taste in motorcycles, thus you get all the good bikes like the Tenere.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:11 PM   #57
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wow...

nice bike, wish they would bring it to Canada. It has some features I wish my xchallenge had such as 22 l of fuel, panniers and some wind protection. I do love my though, also I am sure it would not be as quirky with the little things such as checking the oil level(which is a pain in the a** on the bmw) and chain tension(which constantly varies hour to hour).
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:12 PM   #58
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I don't think an XT with a bigger engine would be better. You cannot
go fast in the US (legally) anyhow. And I would never ride the Autobahn
with a dual-sport. Only for some important shortcuts, but not for long.
And on the country roads you are only allowed 100 km/h which is no
problem even with a 250cc bike.
Kind regards, Svenja Svendura
They don't bring bikes like the Tenere stateside, because, let's face it, there are very few Americans with sensible attitudes as displayed above. We're addicted to our giant rolling chrome encrusted "statements" or our massively overpowered 150mph+ roadburners.

Edit: "205'ed" by Wickedsprint
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:12 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Svendura
The KTM sure has more power, sure is more offroad, sure is more
challenging, but... I need the reliable function of a Yamaha with
it's long service intervals.
KTM 690=5.000 km
XT660=10.000 km AND RELIABLE.

Sorry, I'm just a little out-of-tune, because my KTM's LC4 engine
causes nothing but trouble. Never had that with one of those
boring japanese bikes.
I bought a brandnew KTM LC4 in 1992 and trouble was the same.
Never ever again! Power means nothing without reliability!

Regards, Svenja
Thank you Svenja for talking some sense around here. I'm sure there are plenty of satisfied KTM owners out there, but impressive spec sheets and good looks don't mean everything. The irrational part of me has wanted a KTM for years now, but I won't do it because I don't want to be rebuilding top ends every winter or waiting for parts or replacing water pumps monthly.
A good looking, dependable and reliable japanese alternative to the euro thumpers (640 adv./F650) has been a long time coming. I just hope we see it in the states, for less than $8K
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:37 PM   #60
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I can hardly believe, that Yamaha won't bring the Tenere in the United States.
You live in the country of adventure, offroad and the Marlboro Man.
Over here in Germany we are not allowed to go offroad anywhere!
HA! America is the land of lawsuits and fat people driving SUVs that never leave pavement.

ANyone have a contact email for Yamaha USA? We should flood them with requests to bring this bike to the states.
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