The XT350 thread - Page 100

Grreatdog · 08-17-2010, 09:34 AM

No, the headlight runs off the motor. Only the tail light comes on with the key. So you can ditch the heavy stock battery to save a few pounds. I ran a little sealed lawn mower battery with just enough juice to make the brake light and turn signals work right when idling.

anarxias · 08-17-2010, 09:43 AM

thanks mate

truck6driver · 08-17-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grreatdog

The Yamaha XT350 shock is an innie and the Honda XL/XR shocks are outies.

That is the XT dogbone link straddles the shock mount and the XL/XR shock mount straddles the dogbone link. Which is too bad because I liked the WP shock on my XL600R.

To save you a 100 pages of reading, what I did was run the rear shock preload very soft. The shock had some damping but not enough to add enough preload to set the sag where it should be for my then 180 pounds. So jacking up the preload just caused it to pogo and swap. It was better let it bottom than to have it spit you off in whoops. It made for some hard hits but kept traction up and kept the bike more in control over bumps.

The forks suck but can be improved. The first order of business is to swap the fish oil that comes in them for something decent and go a little heavier. I mixed stock 10 weight Belray half and half with 15 weight Belray because one was too light and the other too hard. Then I added preload spacers to the springs. I can't remember what length I settled on. But the fork oil weight and spring preload length vary with your weight and riding style anyway.

I also wish I had known about the 428 to 520 chain and sprocket conversions back then because mine ate 428 chains like candy.

Well that sucks....I have an XR650L rear shock just laying in the garage.

Ray

cjm1219 · 08-17-2010, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stagehand

Too hot? Boiling the gas. Since its a kick, there's nothing to be gained from excess idling. Not like youre saving battery for a start, I mean.

Also I find that full throttle helps sometimes

Cool. I will try that. The gas did look like it was boiling a bit. I could see it in the in line filter. Is that a bad thing?

I am hesitant to play with the throttle much for fear of flooding it.

This is all kind of new to me and is trail by error. I am still having fun though, so it's all good.

SkidMarx · 08-17-2010, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truck6driver

So has anyone tried one of these?

And I see that at least one other member has changed out front forks. What forks/triple trees will fit the steering stem/neck?

Ray

TT350 triples will work. I believe they are 41mm.
I have a set I might be willing to part with.

nails1 · 08-17-2010, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truck6driver

And I see that at least one other member has changed out front forks. What forks/triple trees will fit the steering stem/neck?

Look up the head bearing set for XT350, and then see what other bikes use the same (top and bottom) p/n. There were lots (I might have listed some of them, about 5000 posts back).

Would need to mind the rest of the geometry -- that would narrow the list of potential donors, I reckon.

truck6driver · 08-17-2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkidMarx

TT350 triples will work. I believe they are 41mm.
I have a set I might be willing to part with.

I don't have the bike yet. Guy was suspossed to meet me Monday morning and did not call until 5pm. I had to be at work at 7pm so it will have to wait until Sunday. Might have the front end off an XR650L also but not sure on that. I have the swing arm and rear linkage and shock off it though. Kinda wondered if they will work as I could bottom out the XR650L and the XR600R. I weigh 230lbs and would need to beef up the suspension so I don't tear the thing apart.

If I get the bike then I will be looking into all options for it.

Ray

endurokids · 08-18-2010, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkidMarx

TT350 triples will work. I believe they are 41mm.
I have a set I might be willing to part with.

How much for the forks?
Can you send pics?

SkidMarx · 08-18-2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endurokids

How much for the forks?
Can you send pics?

I don't have the forks. Just the triple clamp.

xt4ever · 08-18-2010, 08:36 PM

As we're talking about front fork improvement, I wouldn't want my previous question about progressive springs to be miss, so let me ask again:

I'm looking for progressive front springs. I have found three so far:

-Wilbers, the expensive option
-Wirth
-Promoto, the cheaper

Any experience with one of these? Any comment would be very wellcomed

-JL

SkidMarx · 08-19-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xt4ever

As we're talking about front fork improvement, I wouldn't want my previous question about progressive springs to be miss, so let me ask again:

I'm looking for progressive front springs. I have found three so far:

-Wilbers, the expensive option
-Wirth
-Promoto, the cheaper

Any experience with one of these? Any comment would be very wellcomed

-JL

You can use XR200 springs from Progressive Suspension.

JensEskildsen · 08-19-2010, 01:12 PM

I have wilbers on my xt600, and like them.

They vere cheap on ebay, i believe the german one.

Psycho18th · 08-19-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grreatdog

The Yamaha XT350 shock is an innie and the Honda XL/XR shocks are outies.

That is the XT dogbone link straddles the shock mount and the XL/XR shock mount straddles the dogbone link. Which is too bad because I liked the WP shock on my XL600R.

To save you a 100 pages of reading, what I did was run the rear shock preload very soft. The shock had some damping but not enough to add enough preload to set the sag where it should be for my then 180 pounds. So jacking up the preload just caused it to pogo and swap. It was better let it bottom than to have it spit you off in whoops. It made for some hard hits but kept traction up and kept the bike more in control over bumps.

The forks suck but can be improved. The first order of business is to swap the fish oil that comes in them for something decent and go a little heavier. I mixed stock 10 weight Belray half and half with 15 weight Belray because one was too light and the other too hard. Then I added preload spacers to the springs. I can't remember what length I settled on. But the fork oil weight and spring preload length vary with your weight and riding style anyway.

I also wish I had known about the 428 to 520 chain and sprocket conversions back then because mine ate 428 chains like candy.

Check out this thread over at TT: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=908299

Afew posts in is someone (QuickTD) who fit a Raptor quad shock onto his XT as well as YZ125 forks. It might be worth asking him how exactly he did that if you're interested in suspension upgrades...
Psycho

Aivasovsky · 08-20-2010, 03:49 AM

Be sure to use sealed lead acid battery.
Dry type gel batteries are not as prone as the lead acid types.
I remember that somebody had an dry battery melted and/or exploded due to high charging current.
You may think about connecting a resistor serially to the battery to limit the current.
There were some examples about connecting a capacitor instead of a battery.

Best wishes,

SKY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grreatdog

No, the headlight runs off the motor. Only the tail light comes on with the key. So you can ditch the heavy stock battery to save a few pounds. I ran a little sealed lawn mower battery with just enough juice to make the brake light and turn signals work right when idling.

endurokids · 08-20-2010, 04:50 AM

Any model XR 200 springs or a particular year to fit the XT?
Is the XR 200 spring length good or does it need to be cut down?
Man, aftermarket rear shock prices are ridiculous!

08-17-2010, 09:34 AM	#1486
Grreatdog Beastly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Oddometer: 5,641	No, the headlight runs off the motor. Only the tail light comes on with the key. So you can ditch the heavy stock battery to save a few pounds. I ran a little sealed lawn mower battery with just enough juice to make the brake light and turn signals work right when idling. __________________ KTM 640 LC4E KTM 200 MXC XT200

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endurokids n00b Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Wisconsin Oddometer: 9	Re... Any model XR 200 springs or a particular year to fit the XT? Is the XR 200 spring length good or does it need to be cut down? Man, aftermarket rear shock prices are ridiculous! __________________ 5 Husky's, 2 Yamahas and 1 Suzuki.

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08-17-2010, 09:43 AM	#1487
anarxias Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Oddometer: 12	thanks mate

08-18-2010, 08:36 PM	#1495
xt4ever Adventurer Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Z, Spain Oddometer: 73	As we're talking about front fork improvement, I wouldn't want my previous question about progressive springs to be miss, so let me ask again: I'm looking for progressive front springs. I have found three so far: -Wilbers, the expensive option -Wirth -Promoto, the cheaper Any experience with one of these? Any comment would be very wellcomed -JL

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JensEskildsen Studly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Denmark Oddometer: 841	I have wilbers on my xt600, and like them. They vere cheap on ebay, i believe the german one.