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Old 09-28-2012, 09:53 PM   #1696
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That's Craig Estelle and he's fast. Lots of guys scrub speed with the front, but that pic looks to be more in the middle of the turn and he's turning to come out.

Turn the wheel a the bike will follow, it just doesn't feel natural to do it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:27 AM   #1697
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:02 AM   #1698
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Just what I was hoping to see! Thank you for the photos.

Is the front-end washing out in this photo? (photo of the triumph #51) I know some guys (at least Chris Carr) can "scrub off" speed doing this.

Ronnie Rall did it, but usually it isn't scrubbing off speed, it's correcting motorcycle understeering, done to keep the rear out and the front staying in the turn. If not done, the bike will ride up out of the turn. The rider has to "dip" the front wheel to keep the rear out. I had it happening on an old M42 Pursang with a 21 on it back in 73. It kind of shocked me a bit to have the front wheel kind of crossed up the opposite way, but it was what had to be done to keep the bike on line. It goes against the nature of sliding, but if not done you visit the fence.



I'm thinking it's a bit of a motorcycling phenomenon that is likely exclusive to dirt riding, but I'm not sure of that.

I have seen riders doing it on the short track at Western Reserve Motorcycle Club in eastern Ohio, a number of times depending on the track conditions. Usually cushion tracks, but that one shot of the #51 Triumph is definitely pushing the front end on a blue groove track. .
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:10 AM   #1699
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It is often done and the Ride Academy (www.rideacademy.com) guys teach you how to do it the right way.

As for the picture of #51 Estelle, he is a friend of ours and the only reason he is doing this on this bike is it is an evil handeling beast to say the least. Look how long the forks are and where the "tattle tales" are. There's no front end transfer at all. He's in a survival mode trying to keep that big old 750 pointed in the right direction on that tiny little track.

I have pix of Johnny Lewis demonstrating how to do it to excess. I will get them posted soon.

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Old 10-06-2012, 09:18 AM   #1700
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Johnny Lewis instructing extremly on how to turn the front end under to keep the bike down in the corners and to help scrub off a little speed. He is the master along with fellow Ride Academy instructor, Kenny Coolbeth. They do this on 450's at high speed and it's down right scary to watch.

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Old 10-06-2012, 10:05 AM   #1701
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Johnny Lewis instructing extremly on how to turn the front end under to keep the bike down in the corners and to help scrub off a little speed. He is the master along with fellow Ride Academy instructor, Kenny Coolbeth. They do this on 450's at high speed and it's down right scary to watch.
PICTURES!!??? no VID-DEE-OHHHHH???
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:19 PM   #1702
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:15 AM   #1703
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I like that short little seat . . . maybe a Hap Jones?

Reminds me of my '63, but mine is not as cool.




But, as has already been said, this isn't the Desert Sled Thread.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:07 PM   #1704
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PJ Jacobsens 2012 bike.



There are three things I regret in life: Not taking a ride in one of my bosses' G17 Staggerwind. Not taking a ride in Jim Younkin's Mr. Mulligan (I love Howards!). And not doing a few laps on a XR750 when I had the chance. Oh well, live and learn!
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:21 AM   #1705
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I did a little tooling around on Saturday. Someone from Sideburn saw the pics and did a blog post: http://sideburnmag.blogspot.co.uk/20...gentleman.html

I feel famous.

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Old 10-24-2012, 11:32 AM   #1706
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:13 AM   #1707
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:01 AM   #1708
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:56 PM   #1709
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:12 PM   #1710
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I found the suit at Goodwill. It's big enough to fit over my chest protector so the shoulder pads end up looking really big. A friend said with the big shoulder pads, I should have gotten a zoot suit.
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