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Old 07-11-2012, 07:17 AM   #6316
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Notice no input, from the man who refuses to update to a GPS.

... just an occasional map, and his memory.



Update? I need to save my money for the new Honda big thumper dualsport that's on the way.

Hope to ride with you this year, if I can get my head out of my rear long enough to.

Let's go, I'm ready. If you want to ride some single track some day let me know. I have found some new trails close to home.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:32 AM   #6317
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I've used Garmin GPSMAP76 for years. It's been dropped, driven over, submerged, driving rain for hours, and wrecked hard multiple times. Oh, and did I say the screen has a little scratch. It floats (important for me), and I use the RAM mount system to put it on my m/c, mtb, quad, and snowmobile. It's old skool technology with a plain b/w screen but it won't die no matter how poorly I treat it. This model is way outdated so my review unfortunately does little unless you find some old stock or a used one. One similar new model is the Garmin Montana, but that'll set you back a few more bones. I record and save trip tracks and make maps like this using GIS software:

Nice trip you are showing there! I didn't know I could go around the Jordan Craters! I just went down the main road and then had to back track when I missed the Birch Creek fork.

It is too bad that GPS vendors think that we "need" color screens. I'd rather have a B/W and larger screen that doesn't suck as much power than the more expensive ones offered today. :-(
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:35 AM   #6318
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Hope to ride with you this year, if I can get my head out of my rear long enough to.
Good idea. Its hard to balance on a bike in that position!

That reminds me of a "joke" I heard a long time ago. "Its hard to put your foot in your mouth with your head up your ass".
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:39 AM   #6319
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Yes, something like this would be cool. How reliable is it in tracking where you've gone? How/where do you get the most accurate offroad maps so it doesn't just show you "running thru the woods"?
The tracks are very accurate. My GPS has a "Snap to Road" feature that tries to keep the track on known roads. I have that turned off so it shows exactly where I've been.

Another advantage of the newer units, is that tracks can be written to an SD card. That allows several days worth of tracks to be saved and retrieved later. My older GPS V would only save about a day's worth of tracks, which wasn't enough to retrieve a weekend or multiday ride.

Someone mentioned power effiency as an issue. I have a power cable for my GPS connected to the bike battery. I can leave the GPS on with the back light enabled all day long with no concern for running the batteries down.

I'm using the basic Garmin Streets maps. I have yet to find a map set that I can completely trust. They all have roads that don't exist and other issues. I usually have a Benchmark map to fall back on when the GPS seems whacked.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:11 PM   #6320
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Smart phones are great as long as they have service! When they don't, That is where the G.P.S. takes over.
Yeah, bastards! I had that issue. I thought the GPS function of my phone would work whether I was within a cell signal or not. Guess not. I actually thought something was wrong with my phone but when I called Verizon they said that is how they work. Even though the settings show you "connecting to GPS satellites" it really means "connecting to cell tower for GPS info".

I asked if they had a phone that really is a GPS device and they said no. God I hate cell phones and their controlling bullshit.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:16 PM   #6321
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Nice trip you are showing there! I didn't know I could go around the Jordan Craters! I just went down the main road and then had to back track when I missed the Birch Creek fork.

It is too bad that GPS vendors think that we "need" color screens. I'd rather have a B/W and larger screen that doesn't suck as much power than the more expensive ones offered today. :-(
Read my report in sig line on trail around the craters. The road goes through a ranch and is "officially" open to travel, even though it looks very posted as "no trespassing."

Agree also on B/W screen. Color doesn't do much more for me, and I prefer the larger B/W screen on the base 76 compared to the smaller one on the 76 Color models.

The map is created using the State of Minnesota's DNR Garmin extension to download trackpoints from the Garmin and save as an ESRI shapefile that I bring into ArcGIS for map making. I also save waypoints of important locations, but those didn't make it on the map shown.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:20 PM   #6322
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Read my report in sig line on trail around the craters. The road goes through a ranch and is "officially" open to travel, even though it looks very posted as "no trespassing."

Agree also on B/W screen. Color doesn't do much more for me, and I prefer the larger B/W screen on the base 76 compared to the smaller one on the 76 Color models.

The map is created using the State of Minnesota's DNR Garmin extension to download trackpoints from the Garmin and save as an ESRI shapefile that I bring into ArcGIS for map making. I also save waypoints of important locations, but those didn't make it on the map shown.
Not everyone has access to ArcGIS. Luckily my wife does and maybe she can do what you are doing. BTW, know anyone who needs an ArcGIS person as my wife is currently unemployed.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:40 PM   #6323
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Not everyone has access to ArcGIS. Luckily my wife does and maybe she can do what you are doing. BTW, know anyone who needs an ArcGIS person as my wife is currently unemployed.
Yes, I know, but thought I should explain what I'm using. You can buy a "home" license version for $100 per year. I'll keep your wife in mind if I hear anything.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:08 PM   #6324
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I'm using A Garmin 60 csx, with a two gig card, that I picked up for Christmas (used, Ebay) for about 200 shipped. It's ram mounted and wired to the bike. I purchased Garmin's City Navigator on disk, so I can do the routing and stuff on my PC. I downloaded an Idaho topo and an Oregon topo for free from gpsfiledepot.com. I am pretty new to the GPS stuff and I don't really use it to its full potential, but it does a great job of telling me exactly where I am, where I have been, and gives me a good idea of how I might get to where I am going :)
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:27 PM   #6325
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Smart phones are great as long as they have service! When they don't, That is where the G.P.S. takes over.

Actually John, these things don't need cell towers. Verizon has one that works without cell service. Blew me away, told the guy I thought he was a liar till he proved me otherwise.
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:29 PM   #6326
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Actually John, these things don't need cell towers. Verizon has one that works without cell service. Blew me away, told the guy I thought he was a liar till he proved me otherwise.
Wow that would be sweet but I would have to see it work to believe it, Ive been out with allot of people who's smart phones lose there GPS when they lose service. It is actually streamed to them just like net flix. They have no internal GPS reciever, Unless there is a new one that I am unaware of. I'll have to do some research. If true the cost of that phone must be unreal.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:13 AM   #6327
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I've posted up a ride over on the IAMC site for next Friday and Saturday... for Scott Mtn, Deadwood City, and the sites up near Stibnite... We will be camping Friday night up around Landmark and home on Saturday noc... here's a link if anyone is interested...

http://www.motoidaho.com/node/1056

feel free to PM me if needed, but signing up over at IAMC would be good also...

thanks rick
So it is down to just you and I?
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #6328
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So it is down to just you and I?
It's my last week of night shift, so I can't leave on Friday night. Leaving Saturday morning for points North, yet to be determined. Either with a buddy from work, or solo again.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:21 PM   #6329
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Wow that would be sweet but I would have to see it work to believe it, Ive been out with allot of people who's smart phones lose there GPS when they lose service. It is actually streamed to them just like net flix. They have no internal GPS reciever, Unless there is a new one that I am unaware of. I'll have to do some research. If true the cost of that phone must be unreal.
I have a Droid Bionic that works without cell service, even my old original Droid worked without cell service if you are using an app such as this from someone right here in ADV...

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691537

Works great too!!! You can plan trips right on the www.dualsportmaps.com website and then put them on your Android phone. It is true the built in navigator and maps on android phones don't work without cell coverage but some apps such as the dualsportmaps.com one do. You can even get a android phone or tablet(with gps) and not even have a carrier but download over wifi and use that as your gps.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:31 PM   #6330
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So it is down to just you and I?

Edit!! we are now three... and we will meet at the Chevron in Horseshoe Bend at 12:30 Friday... see you there!


I believe we're stuck with each other!!


not to worry, it'll be a fun ride!... could you PM me your cell phone# in case I need to get in touch with you tomorrow morning? thanks! rick

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