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Old 10-28-2010, 04:10 PM   #136
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Thanks to Az-Twin for his help, these arrived last week.


Will be a couple of weeks before the suspension shop can get to work on them and put the cartridges into the OEM forks as they are moving shop.

Have to make the bottom of the OEM forks look like this.

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What exactly are they mate?
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:42 PM   #137
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My guess: a pair of Marzocchis
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:05 AM   #138
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What exactly are they mate?

My guess would be; bloody expensive.
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Old 10-29-2010, 05:05 AM   #139
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I'll chime in with a guess: Marzocchi Shivers off of Aprilia RXV.

GSD4ME: Decent 45mm USD Shivers can usually be found for around 250-300 US$, relatively affordable in my books.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:17 AM   #140
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Max and Finn are both right.

$300usd plus freight. Still a lot cheaper than a single cartridge from Marzocchi (if you could get one)

Could have a wheel spacer made and a disc adapter, plus the lower triple clamp area on the stanchion needs to be about 3mm smaller in diameter, otherwise axle and top clamp are correct size.

I want to keep the ABS so will go with the cartridge replacement instead and see how that works.


Just a question for those who have played with the OEM forks, has anyone ever fitted 2 OEM right hand side rebound cartridges to the OEM forks and see how they worked?
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:12 AM   #141
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XC stanchions

Just a thought, for people before they spend too much on original forks:

My originals that I used last year are (i think) slightly bent. Getting the sliders back into after taking them out for a service was pretty tough. Can check to confirm it later.

Before I started last years ride, Simon Pavey who raced one in the Dakar in 08 had briefed me that the stock XC stanchions (tubes) were made of a soft metal on the XC. After bending 3 pairs, he swapped his stanchions out for same sized but better metal units from a HP2.

Only problem is, since they dont make HP2s anymore, the HP2 stanchions are rare as hens teeth and super expensive.

Just something else to bear in mind.

Maybe the shiver stanchions will fit? Are they the same length?
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:21 AM   #142
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The stanchions are the same length on mine just the lower clamp area is slightly larger but could be turned down to fit properly.

New Marz 45 sliders are about a cm longer than OEM.

Will be keeping my bits for spares.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:07 AM   #143
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Note to all: when / if you need to machine down the lower triple clamp area on the Marzocchi Shiver tubes to make them fit into original Xchallenge triples, be careful not to overtighten them upon final installation.

10Nm is adequate torque for the lower triple clamp bolts. More than that, and you risk squeezing the machined tubes too much, resulting in stiction and general shitty behaviour. On the top triple clamp area, 25Nm should suffice, and it's not that critical.



(and I have a set of RXV Shivers coming in, too - building a set of forks for my friend's X.)
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:20 PM   #144
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Hi all

Anyone out there know if the 45mm Marzocchi Shivers from a 2007 Gas Gas EC250 will fit the X Challenge?

I was hoping to keep the original sliders and fit the stanchions from the new forks.

Any help appreciated.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:25 AM   #145
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Anyone out there know if the 45mm Marzocchi Shivers from a 2007 Gas Gas EC250 will fit the X Challenge? I was hoping to keep the original sliders and fit the stanchions from the new forks. Any help appreciated.
eBay UK, huh? :)
For what it's worth, i.e. my opinion: I think they should be ok.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:32 AM   #146
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Marzocchi factory series 45s

I recently picked up a set of the Black Marzocchi 45mm Factory Series forks ... http://www.marzocchi.co.uk/moto/45legsend.html



They dont make them anymore, but I found a pair on Ebay.

I got them because my old riding buddy Terry (BAM Road Terry) bought a pair for his X-Country and said they fitted straight in. I had thought about using these a year ago, but dismissed it because I thought they were the wrong size for the stock triple clamps ... but I was wrong.!

Like other compatible Shiver transplants, this is probably the easiest high quality fork transplant for the X-Country / X-Challenge. They fit right in. All that needs to be done is to spin off the axle clamps from the stock forks, drill access for the compression adjustment and put them on the black anodised sliders on the Marzocchis.

Here is Terry's bike yesterday in the Hyperpro workshop in Alphen, Holland. Bas was respringing and revalving, and changing the weight of oil in the forks. The bike sits as high as an X-Challenge now

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Old 11-10-2010, 02:16 AM   #147
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Will be good to read what he thinks of them.

Still waiting for mine to be done the same way.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:39 AM   #148
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Will be good to read what he thinks of them.

Still waiting for mine to be done the same way.
I will also do a set for my XChallenge ... so will be able to compare directly with the WP forks I have in there now.

Will do a full write up when I begin
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:59 AM   #149
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Wanted - used front fork

I went for a litle ride last week, had a couple of offs, just like any other day. However, on my ride yesterday, I noticed my newly replaced fork seal was leaking like crazy. Upon further inspection, I noticed this--



I've been reading the posts and it looks like were left out for replacements without some fabrication and a fist full of cash, which I'm a little short on.

I'm hopefully going to be able to still use these forks for this weekend, but I'm not sure.

So, does anyone have a front fork they want to get rid of? I'm trying to avoid the $700 to purchase a new upper fork.

I'm also open to options for an upgraded front end now.
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:13 PM   #150
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I went for a litle ride last week, had a couple of offs, just like any other day. However, on my ride yesterday, I noticed my newly replaced fork seal was leaking like crazy. Upon further inspection, I noticed this--
Umm, what actually is the "this" in your photo? Damaged dust seal, no?
Or have you opened the fork, and there's something terribly wrong inside there... that a new dust seal, oil seal and bushing replacement will not fix?
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