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Old 11-13-2010, 10:30 AM   #166
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Aren't the sliders the same size? Then the insides of the stanchions would be as well. Maybe the weakness of the X-Ch stanchions simply comes from the fact that they are thinner?
My guess is they are machined from a lower grade alloy. Pavey replaced his XC stanchions with identically sized HP2 stanchions and had no more problems ... after bending 3 sets of XC stanchions. When you think of 2 big alloy billets required to get two stanchions ... a cheaper material would save a lot of money, and alloy grades vary alot on price. Bearing in mind how tight manufacturers are when it comes to spending on suspension ... I have heard that a non ESA BMW 1200 rear suspension costs them something around 27 EUR a piece from the suppliers, then saving 20 EUR on fork material makes a lot of sense.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:28 PM   #167
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Does anybody know if this ones would fit?

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Marzocchi Shiver 45mm forks Beta

This is a set of take off front forks from my 2008 Beta 525

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Did you just win them on Ebay?
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:41 PM   #168
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Did you just win them on Ebay?
Nope someone else did, I was unsure whether they would fit ... have to keep looking
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:06 AM   #169
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Hy Dudes! My first post on this forum!

Do you think that the Ohlins TTX cartridge for the F800Gs can fit on the G650X Challenge?

F800's fork is a Marzocchi 45mm so I think that's not impossible...
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:14 AM   #170
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Info I was given by a few suspension places around the world is no.

A number of companies make valving and cartridges for the 800 but no one makes them for the 650.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:18 AM   #171
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That's a shame

Maybe I will go to a MX shop in order to make the OEM internal better...
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:23 AM   #172
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That's a shame

Maybe I will go to a MX shop in order to make the OEM internal better...
I think thats been tried before ...
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:21 AM   #173
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Yes... And it will be less expensive!

The KTM dealer in my neighbourhood told me that he can do that for 150$... What do you think about this?
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:36 AM   #174
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I think thats been tried before ...
Yep, without any luck at a few places so far.

Had one guy open them up and he just shook his head at the right side cartridge but couldn't really work out what BMW were trying to do with the left side cartridge. He used a few choice adjectives though.

One owner on here wrote that a shop in the USA has worked on them though with some success. Here is an e-mail I received back from them.

"Yes ,we do it few times a year ,we cut the cartidge and put a new one after modified the valving and crimp it ,i got the crip tool last year and cartidges are avaible from marzochi italy cost is around $500" trailtrick@sbcglobal.net

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Old 11-17-2010, 03:42 AM   #175
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Yep, without any luck at a few places so far.

Had one guy open them up and he just shook his head at the right side cartridge but couldn't really work out what BMW were trying to do with the left side cartridge. He used a few choice adjectives though.

One owner on here wrote that a shop in the USA has worked on them though with some success. Here is an e-mail I received back from them.

"Yes ,we do it few times a year ,we cut the cartidge and put a new one after modified the valving and crimp it ,i got the crip tool last year and cartidges are avaible from marzochi italy cost is around $500" trailtrick@sbcglobal.net

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Thanks!

I'll try to take some info about it
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:57 AM   #176
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Yes... And it will be less expensive!

The KTM dealer in my neighbourhood told me that he can do that for 150$... What do you think about this?
I think he has never looked inside an x-challenge fork before if he thinks this
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:13 AM   #177
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Nope someone else did, I was unsure whether they would fit ... have to keep looking
I was out bid at the last second, nice sniping to whoever got them. so the search continues.

Do I understand correctly that it is relatively easy to swap the mount on the bottom of the fork (not sure what it is called, what the axle and brake caliper mount to) from the OEM Xchallenge forks to a set of Shiver forks with the proper dimensions up top for the triple clamps?
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:14 AM   #178
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Twalcom in Italy offers the Ohlins TTX cartridge for the 800 GS and also for the HP2.
Correct me if i am wrong,as far as i know the fork on the HP 2 and the X Challenge are the same.
Ergo that should work.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:15 AM   #179
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Yes,

HP2 did it with his XChallenge, pictures included. It looked like not that hard to do.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:15 AM   #180
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I think he has never looked inside an x-challenge fork before if he thinks this
Are you trying to say to me that nothing can be done for this fork but changing the springs/oil??
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