BMW G650XChallenge FRONT SUSPENSION - Page 2

Oni · 10-24-2008, 09:17 AM

Check out Gaspipes thread in the X Challenge index. Marzocchi Shivers fit with some mods.

johan · 10-24-2008, 09:22 AM

Hmm, slightly beyond my budget I think...

Dagwood_55 · 12-31-2008, 04:48 PM

Hate to sound dumb, but when you guys say -5, and -5 settings: Do you mean 5 clicks to the - (counterclockwise) from the stock settings?? and the same on the other fork?? I weigh 190lbs and want them soft as I don't ride hard or jump.

If this is not correct, what does it mean??

FlyingFinn · 12-31-2008, 09:24 PM

Yes. Yes.

That's correct.

--
Mikko

gsd4me · 12-31-2008, 09:47 PM

Exactly what are the stock setting? I bought my bike second hand, and I`m guessing things had been played with.

Dagwood_55 · 01-01-2009, 04:52 AM

My new bike stock settings were 11 clicks - (counterclockwise) from all the way in (clockwise), on both sides.

Glad to learn this, I'm going riding this morning and the stock setting is quite hard to me.

gsd4me · 01-01-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwood_55

My new bike stock settings were 11 clicks - (counterclockwise) from all the way in (clockwise), on both sides.

Glad to learn this, I'm going riding this morning and the stock setting is quite hard to me.

Thanks for that mate, that means they were set at half way. I`m new to having adjustable forks, having previously run airheads.

tbarstow · 01-01-2009, 06:09 PM

What is the best working solution that anyone has come up with for dealing with the excessive front end dive during braking? New springs?

ropedrag · 01-01-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbarstow

What is the best working solution that anyone has come up with for dealing with the excessive front end dive during braking? New springs?

Best thing I've found is a light tap on the rear brake, seems to deal with it fairly effectively.

Cail · 01-04-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbarstow

What is the best working solution that anyone has come up with for dealing with the excessive front end dive during braking? New springs?

Stiffer springs solves that problem. Touratech has them. They are Wirth springs I think you can source them from Hyperpro or Wilburs as well.

Max Kool · 01-05-2009, 01:53 AM

You really find the front dive that excessive? I never bottomed the forks out under braking, even in rocky terrain. I'm inclined to think stiffer springs will not only reduce front dive, but reduce the effective suspension travel as well.

I mean, you can hardly have one without the other.

tbarstow · 01-05-2009, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Kool

You really find the front dive that excessive? I never bottomed the forks out under braking, even in rocky terrain. I'm inclined to think stiffer springs will not only reduce front dive, but reduce the effective suspension travel as well.

I mean, you can hardly have one without the other.

I guess that my GSA has affected my perception of how much the front end dives on the X. How stiff the spring is won't affect the net travel of the front end, just what load it takes to compress the springs.

An earlier post put the spring setup for a 75 kg (165 pounds) rider. I'll weigh in at 95-100kg (210 to 220 pounds) geared up, so I probably need to swap the springs out so I don't have excessive sag in the front end to begin with and this should help me to keep the front end from bottoming out on the trail.

DiscoDino · 01-05-2009, 09:00 AM

I'm 275lbs geared up, and the front dive could be better, but it isn't THAT much excessive...as Max said, the stiffer springs will result in less suspension travel/effectiveness when not braking (most of the time)...

mcftw · 01-05-2009, 01:48 PM

Are they progressive springs?

MTDewX8 · 01-05-2009, 05:18 PM

I remember my test ride and was very surprised on its dive when braking.
granite I am not used ot it and on a test ride so I coudlnt' get all crazy.
but I felt like I was going to do an Indo trick or something.

but that is just me of cousre.

10-24-2008, 09:22 AM	#17
johan Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Mjölby, Sweden Oddometer: 249	Hmm, slightly beyond my budget I think... __________________ 08´KTM 250 EXC-R (Yes, it's getting silly...) 08´KTM 450 EXC-R (can't stop buying...) 07' BMW X-Challenge (For the longish trips) 03' KTM 640Adv (Passed on to other hooligan) 04' BMW 650 Dakar (Oops, totalled) 81' YAMAHA YZ 125 (Died in my arms of old age)

12-31-2008, 04:48 PM	#18
Dagwood_55 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Location: The Ozarks Oddometer: 994	Another question about setting the front suspension Hate to sound dumb, but when you guys say -5, and -5 settings: Do you mean 5 clicks to the - (counterclockwise) from the stock settings?? and the same on the other fork?? I weigh 190lbs and want them soft as I don't ride hard or jump. If this is not correct, what does it mean?? __________________ Live long, love much, laugh often, and Ride, Ride, Ride.....

12-31-2008, 09:47 PM	#20
gsd4me unconditional love Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Oddometer: 5,619	Exactly what are the stock setting? I bought my bike second hand, and I`m guessing things had been played with. __________________ David Hunn: R100GS Ray Peake special. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...uild+australia

01-01-2009, 04:52 AM	#21
Dagwood_55 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Location: The Ozarks Oddometer: 994	My new bike stock settings were 11 clicks - (counterclockwise) from all the way in (clockwise), on both sides. Glad to learn this, I'm going riding this morning and the stock setting is quite hard to me. __________________ Live long, love much, laugh often, and Ride, Ride, Ride.....

01-01-2009, 06:09 PM	#23
tbarstow Two-wheelin' Fool Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Viva Lost Wages! Oddometer: 2,565	Front Suspension Dive during braking What is the best working solution that anyone has come up with for dealing with the excessive front end dive during braking? New springs?

10-24-2008, 09:17 AM	#16
Oni Ronin Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Pasadena - Californistan Oddometer: 1,838	Check out Gaspipes thread in the X Challenge index. Marzocchi Shivers fit with some mods.

12-31-2008, 09:24 PM	#19
FlyingFinn Studly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Oddometer: 939	Yes. Yes. That's correct. -- Mikko

01-05-2009, 01:53 AM	#26
Max Kool Xtankteam™ Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Windmillonia Oddometer: 3,206	You really find the front dive that excessive? I never bottomed the forks out under braking, even in rocky terrain. I'm inclined to think stiffer springs will not only reduce front dive, but reduce the effective suspension travel as well. I mean, you can hardly have one without the other. __________________ Click here for an auxiliary sidetank for the BMW Xchallenge . Click here for a recalibrated speedo ring for the BMW G650X series .

01-05-2009, 09:00 AM	#28
DiscoDino Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Lebanon/NYC Oddometer: 1,812	I'm 275lbs geared up, and the front dive could be better, but it isn't THAT much excessive...as Max said, the stiffer springs will result in less suspension travel/effectiveness when not braking (most of the time)... __________________ Adventurer transitioning from 4x4 to 2x1 '07 G650Xch - Under Mod-struction

01-05-2009, 01:48 PM	#29
mcftw hxc n33b Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Lost in Cali Oddometer: 454	Are they progressive springs? __________________ "Open up your mind and think like me." Jason Mraz

01-05-2009, 05:18 PM	#30
MTDewX8 Studly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Oddometer: 503	I remember my test ride and was very surprised on its dive when braking. granite I am not used ot it and on a test ride so I coudlnt' get all crazy. but I felt like I was going to do an Indo trick or something. but that is just me of cousre. __________________ Bike-less at the moment

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