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Old 01-22-2011, 11:37 PM   #286
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Got the bike out for a good ride today on bitumen and dirt, the suspension is now very good and makes the bike handle properly. It should have come like this.
All the work was worth it.
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Good work mate, I'm glad it went well, any pics ?


Yep, pics needed. I`m finally biting the bullet and getting a "real" rear shock for mine. Bloody sick of the thing trying to kill me whenever I stop going down a hill.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:18 AM   #287
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Dave, it is more a fork problem than the air shock problem. The fork is so bad that it allows the rear shock to stinkbug all over the place and terrorise riders going down hill and using the front brake.

Fix the fork first and you may not have to spend money on the rear shock.

I can take pics but it just looks like the standard forks with MPE stickers on the legs. Internals and springs are all new.

Let me know if you want a test ride one day Dave.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:26 AM   #288
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Dave, it is more a fork problem than the air shock problem. The fork is so bad that it allows the rear shock to stinkbug all over the place and terrorise riders going down hill and using the front brake.

Fix the fork first and you may not have to spend money on the rear shock.

I can take pics but it just looks like the standard forks with MPE stickers on the legs. Internals and springs are all new.

Let me know if you want a test ride one day Dave.


I`m talking about the rear topping out when stopped, making it impossible to make foot contact with terra firma, I actually like the ride the air shock gives me.

I was under the impression you replaced the entire front end on yours, maybe I need to peruse this thread again.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:45 AM   #289
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I bought a complete front end new (replacements for a CR500) but they were too big for the lower triple clamps. Had a couple of choices, 1/ have the new outer legs turned down to fit and then have the OEM wheel and brake mounts taken off of the OEM forks, have the bottoms lathed so that the new inners fitted, or 2/ have the new forks gutted and revalved for my specs and with new springs the lot were fitted inside the OEM forks and the bottom lathed to accept the new inners. Nothing else needed and the ABS etc works same as standard.

After a recommendation from MPE, we went with option 2.

Sorry Dave, you are right that a different shock will let you put your feet on the ground. Note, the Ohlins they sell for our bikes are longer than the OEM air shock and actually make the rear taller before sag etc. MPE also did a complete revalve on the Ohlins and shortened it a bit, it works a lot better than id did new.

Have you trimmed your seat yet? Helps a lot and is heaps more comfortable.







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Have you trimmed your seat yet? Helps a lot and is heaps more comfortable.

Mine came with the high seat, and John Moorhouse has had a go at it, so it`s a wee bit higher, but more comfortable.

I reckon once I get the bike to sit normally and easier to get on and off, then I`ll do something with the front, not sure about going to the trouble you did though; maybe Hyperpro springs or something.

What was the total cost for forks/work?
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PM'd you Dave.
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Cruz,

Glad to hear you like it, congrats!. That makes the expense all the more better.
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Old 01-23-2011, 10:52 PM   #293
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Glad to hear you like it, congrats!. That makes the expense all the more better.
Enough change to have me looking for more power on a few occasions on and off road. Never had that before.
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Old 01-24-2011, 06:57 AM   #294
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let me introduce you to Rob's Theory of Motorbike Relativity.

Good Suspension + Gobs of Power = Lots of fun

I have another one that involves hospital bills, I will keep that one to my self.
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let me introduce you to Rob's Theory of Motorbike Relativity.

Good Suspension + Gobs of Power = Lots of fun

I have another one that involves hospital bills, I will keep that one to my self.
Err... Good Suspension + Gobs of Power = Involves Hospital Bills ?
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Err... Good Suspension + Gobs of Power = Involves Hospital Bills ?
Exactly!
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Err... Good Suspension + Gobs of Power = Involves Hospital Bills ?

Interesting, I read in a thread over in the ADV racing forum that Good suspension + gobs of power = getting laid.

I think I like that version better!
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let me introduce you to Rob's Theory of Motorbike Relativity.

Good Suspension + Gobs of Power = Lots of fun

I have another one that involves hospital bills, I will keep that one to my self.
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Interesting, I read in a thread over in the ADV racing forum that Good suspension + gobs of power = getting laid.

I think I like that version better!
Well, it all makes sense, since

(getting laid = lots of fun) is a true statement

and

(getting laid = Involves Hospital Bills) can also be a true statement





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I have read many times that the air shock is not bad, but its the front end that the bigger problem.
It sure "feels" like its the rear though.

The ride quality of my bike is very harsh. I rode some forest roads with some KLR's recently and got beat to death.
I swapped out bikes with a KLR.
While I could ride much faster on the XC and with more control, the general cruising was a beating by comparison.

I am heavy (255 lbs) and have the bubble set at just to the soft side of the middle.
My bike does not stink bug real bad unless the bubble is completely off to the soft side.
I tried both the hard & soft damping, but soft is like a worn out shock with lots of bouncing, so I run it in hard.

I have the front compression & rebound on the softer side of mid way with the compression set a bit softer than the rebound.
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The 'bubble' was some kind of techno crap that BMW tried to lay on buyers of the XC. Take no notice of it. You should be setting the shock using rider sag measurements.

They are on here somewhere, I am sure someone else will chime in with the proper setup.
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