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Old 02-26-2010, 03:52 PM   #211
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I am actually thinking of wrapping my header with header wrap or heat-shield tape! Like this product here... http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/co...haust_wrap.php

Has anyone else thought of doing this? It would also help get the heat through the exhaust which I believe gives better power!
Did you try this? Did it help with the problem of the pipe too close to the (coolant?) rubber hose? Pics?
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:50 AM   #212
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That old link for the power curve chart for the Leo Vince exhaust doesn't work and I cannot parla Italiano... could you try to find another one please? thanks!

There you go ;)
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:54 AM   #213
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Hey Max,

Do you know if that HP figure is at the rear wheel? 50+ would not be too shabby.
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:01 AM   #214
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Hi Lukas,

I honestly don't know, but I do think it's without the legal insert. I'm inclined to think running WITH the insert gives a few ponies less, but better low and midrange. Mine feels like tractor at low RPM, and it's nearly impossible to ride below revs.

(which is what I like btw)
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:03 AM   #215
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Leo Vince parts and inserts

This is old news but hey I just got the Leo Vince aluminum X3 and wanted someone out there to verify the various combinations of inserts and what their loudness / performance tradeoffs are. Could someone please review this info below for accuracy?


Here is my take on the information:

To describe the 4 inserts provided, in terms of the length of the part of the insert that is internal to the muffler: there are 2 long and 2 short inserts (short=FIM? meaning racing?).
I assume the longer ones are more restrictive hence quieter than the shorter ones. For each pair by length (e.g. the long pair), there is a "skinny" smaller diameter one (with no tube sticking out the back) and a "fat" larger diameter one (WITH the tube sticking out the back). I assume a skinny one is more restrictive hence quieter than a fat one of the same length.

In addition I think the spark arrestor (SA) will not fit on the "fat" ones since they have the tube sticking out the back.

So you have these 4, and this is my guess at listing them in order from LESS Restrictive ("loudest, highest performance") to MORE Restrictive ("quietest, lowest performance"):
Short Fat
Short Skinny (optional SA)
Long Fat << installed from factory I believe
Long Skinny (optional SA)

Can anyone confirm this PLEASE ??

I want quiet and the spark arrestor so it's "Long and Skinny" for me!
(don't go there! at least it's better than short and skinny )


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Old 03-22-2010, 08:33 PM   #216
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Header Torque Specs

Also due to the exhaust header being very close to a coolant hose at the rear of the engine, I understand one option is to loosen the 2 nuts at the head and rotate the header a bit to gain clearance.

Can anyone tell me what torque spec to use on the 2 nuts on the engine studs at the header? (pic below)

I'm a bit leery as I did this on a Honda v-twin and never could get close to the torque spec before it felt like I was about to strip out the stud so I stopped. It was 7 years ago and no problems since but should I go a bit below the torque spec? Any advice?

And it is important to do this on a completely cool engine or anything else like using thread penetrant first to loosen the stud bolts, or should I use anti-seize on the header studs when reassembling? Anything to keep me from royally screwing this up? hehe thanks!
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:09 AM   #217
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Short Fat => Way too loud to be socially accepted
Short Skinny (optional SA) => Still way too loud to be socially accepted
Long Fat << installed from factory I believe => Within EC regulations so legal, but much louder than stock. You'll still catch the attention.
Long Skinny (optional SA) => The quietest option, and with the spark arrester the most legal one. Hardly much quiter than with the Long Fat one though.

Peformance wise, I expect the two short ones to deliver the best peak horsepower, but you simply do not dare to gice your bike full throttle.

The two long ones are the best option in my opinion. Delivering fat bottom power, and a nice sound. Loud, but not obnoxious.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:15 PM   #218
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From the Leo Vince X3 web page:

"DuraPaq™ packing material is designed to last 50 hours before repacking, even under severe racing conditions"

Anyone bothered repacking it, any issues?
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:12 PM   #219
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Those LeoVince bolts are stainless, bolted into the stainless end cap. As we know this combination can very easily lead to the thread "eating itself" (don't know how to express it better in English). You should always use some form form of anti-seize on these threads. Copaslip, alu-grease. Even plain bearing grease.

I can't remember it being mentioned in the LV's manual though....

Good luck with the LV rep.
I just installed mine (that I bought for $200US!!) and used high-temp threadlock on those bolts just in case. Will ride tomorrow and offer thoughts...
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:35 AM   #220
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Reinstalled after ceramic coating this week. After all the rain and mud this year there was a bit of rust forming on the rear of the header pipe as it turns coming off of the head. Hard to see and get at so this should fix it.


Runs a fair bit cooler also so don't need to worry about the hoses.




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Old 11-08-2010, 02:31 AM   #221
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Just bought a Remus Revolution Titanium - road legal.......................hope it's quieter than a Freeride
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:52 PM   #222
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Just bought a Remus Revolution Titanium - road legal.......................hope it's quieter than a Freeride
Arrived today............fitted with Cat too and Carbon end cap.........looks like a work of art

2kgs lighter too

Nice barp, but not much louder than the stock
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:28 PM   #223
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Reinstalled after ceramic coating this week.

I`ve seen pipes off an airhead that have been ceramic coated, very neat, especially as the inside of the exhaust was smoother than before; this must help with gas extraction. Where was it done?
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:30 AM   #224
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Yeah, a lot smoother inside and does run cooler, cools down quickly after stopping and easy to keep clean.

Had it done here.

Thermal Edge Coating -
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:33 AM   #225
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BMW G650X Akrapovic Exhaust Install

Here is a pictorial of the key points for the Akrapovic Off Road Exhaust Install. Where there are no photographs, the instructions worked fine / self explainatory, where I have provided photos, the instructions where lacking. Also just some progress photos, here it goes...

Before.... Just in case you forgot what it looks like.

http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...c1aa81da208cfa

http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...30c1b697c4092e

http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...5fae2ca5925eba



Check all the parts are there before starting...


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...a0742a6dae0ecc


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...fa0382e21d304e


Removing the stock exhaust. Pretty easy. One little hickup was the O2 sensor harness. The instructions say to disconect the lower part of the connector, I found it easyer to remove both the upper and lower parts as a unit, its just two extra bolts...

http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...a3c7dfef50cfd8


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...22e98f7be881fe


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...a568e089b48163


Removal of the Stock Exhaust...


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...b6ce2fb9891945


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...0e2469f6f81b70


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...2464b70608117e


Keep this clamp, its good qauality and might come in handy for future mods someday.


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...0e2469f6f81b70


Now take off the stock header. Careful not to drop the bolts down into the bash plate, its a hassle getting them out, Doh!


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...5fae2ca5925eba


Bike with no exhaust, just a bit naked looking...


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...24efb0edb9df38


Now for a comparison of the BMW stock parts to Akrapovic...

The Akrapovic header swallows the BMW header, and a wise man once said..."Size Matters".


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...f1856e300be8b6


Just not in the case of the BMW Muffler, another wise person (Mae West) said... "To much of a good thing can be taxing".


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...183208420343b1


And a header comparo... Nice radius on the Akrapovic and sweet welds too!


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...6e7bdb7bffd0da


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...20c1a5043f27e8


Test Fit before bolting up, look for any potential interference points...


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...dc0c6a2809499a


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...a56368e0a691a5


When bolting the header retention flange to the head, the instructions say to torque to 15 lb/ft, on my torque wrench this bent the flange, i would recomend 12 lb/ft. At least on my torque wrench, the key here is to keep and eye on the flange as you troque it and careful not to bend.


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...f8f7d5488aa683


Coat the Akrapovic header (the part that inserts into the flange) with the provided ceramic grease.


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...dea091f1ccd823


The Header fits very thightly into the flange, the instructions call for a rubber mallet, i used a large screw driver inserted into the hook for the spring clip, taping with a hammer. Dont have a rubber mallet.... I do not think banging on the header even with a rubber mallet is the best idea and could cause dents or a flat spot. Be patient and work it slowly and patently. I also put the header in the freezer for about 15 mins, this helped a lot!


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...d898d5c887c97a


Sucess!!! Took about three trys, and the freezer thing really did seem to help!


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...d898d5c887c97a


Now for the trimmings...

Prep bolts by screwing on the small heat resistant bushing on to each bolt for the carbon heat shields. Then instert the bolt into the carbon shield, screw on the large bushing to bolt on back side of shield. This may seem obvious to most, but its an important time saver the german translation misses in the instructions....

http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...9cfc1d2e68090c


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...0113790d245c0e


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...2903e1ec6949f1


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...34be7eb9e23fa7


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...560428cbddce52


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...606ef3b00c2645


Then install onto the header and muffler. Instructions say to put the carbon pieces on before installation on the bike. I found it easyer to install these pieces with the header and muffer in place. Your call....

Instructions are good for the muffler to header connection, follow the pictures in the manual.

Finished product.... Start it up check for leaks, the ceramic grease will cause some smoking, not to worry. Burns off in a few mins. Take it for and ride and enjoy the sweet sound and increast in mid range torque!!!


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...3365cdb6469b96


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...f1d1f7f6e01706


http://www.photoshop.com/users/pmash...2520f264bedee5
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