Best Exhaust for the X 650??? - Page 5

Ice · 11-24-2007, 09:49 PM

I am curious what the weight difference is between the stock can and any of the aftermarket mufflers which have been installed. The stock exhaust muffler on the X Challenge looks like a bazooka. Big and heavy looking.

10 pound weight savings maybe ??

Max Kool · 11-24-2007, 11:55 PM

It's not that dramatic. The stock exhaust weighs 5,5 kgs (around 12 lbs) and the Leovince weighs around 3 kgs. So the weight difference is around 2 kgs.

alfaris · 11-26-2007, 11:06 AM

Does anyone know what would happen if mount NO INSERT on the Leovince X3?????

Max Kool · 11-26-2007, 11:20 AM

BRAAAAPP!!!

alfaris · 11-26-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Kool

BRAAAAPP!!!

well, but

would the bike run more than with the insert or not?

Tomorrow i am goin to try the FIM insert and NO isert to see what is the difference on power.

By the way one of the screw of the X3 tail cup was broken when i tried to open it, so a half of the washer remained into de hole

. I went today to someone who took it out and made a new hole, i do not know how to explain this. they are very poor quality so even the others are hard to screw them.

Well , tomorrow i´ll try both options.

Max Kool · 11-26-2007, 12:09 PM

The bolts are stainless steel, into the stainless steel back end plate. If there is only a tiny wire edge or barr between the thread, you will strip the complete thread off.

They should have used plated bolts imho.

alfaris · 11-26-2007, 02:56 PM

MAxKool

You were right. This FIM insert is simply unaffordable in terms not only of social acceptance but on your own ears and shame. I just turn on the engine on the garage and the crazy thunder exploded. I turned off immediately and went back to EURO insert.

I simply cannot feel myself for even going through the corner with that FIM insert, i would not feel well and also i do not want to be spotted everywhere i go.

I would not mount it even at Morocco.

SteveRed · 11-26-2007, 04:35 PM

I just spoke with STAINTUNE and they are looking for a donor bike to manufacture an exhaust for the GX. I have offered them my bike for a few days after Christmas and they should then be able to offer a Staintune system late Feb/March.

GB · 11-26-2007, 05:22 PM

Good work!! I posted this reply in the Threadfest:

Excellent Steve!! See if you can score me a discount or a demo unit!! It was MY idea after all!!

Remind them that the LeoVince comes up short on the heat shield where it joins to the header pipe. so they need to create something to improve on that..

p.s. tell them I like it quiet!

SteveRed · 11-26-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget Boy

Good work!! I posted this reply in the Threadfest:

Excellent Steve!! See if you can score me a discount or a demo unit!! It was MY idea after all!!

Remind them that the LeoVince comes up short on the heat shield where it joins to the header pipe. so they need to create something to improve on that..

p.s. tell them I like it quiet!

Ye.. When they get my bike it will already have the LeoVince on it (If the bloody thing ever arrives here from Germany!) so they will be able to see the problem. I wonder if they use my bike as a Guinea Pig, if I will get an exhaust or at least a decent discount on one as a reward? Not that I am looking for it

Dirt Hugger · 11-28-2007, 02:39 AM

New XChallenge arrived yesterday, traded the 1200GS...

I also fitted the Leo Vince X3 slip-on... My initial thoughts:

For me the sound level is just about perfect with the road legal Euro insert (the insert that was already fitted).

It completely transforms the bike with regards to throttle response - immediate action on the back wheel. If you are looking for something as quiet as the stock can, this is not it, though...

I think MaxCool summed it up quite nicely: "LeoVince with legal insert: fruity clear bark, but still legallish" - with the focus on the "ish"...

I agree about fitting an additional heat shield to the header just before the end can.

So far I am a happy camper!

GB · 11-28-2007, 05:30 AM

Steve,

Surely Staintune will give you a can if they borrow your bike... it's understood!!

Well, by Dirt Hugger's description, it sounds like the LeoVince will be too loud for me.. let's see what Staintune does..

Olas · 11-30-2007, 10:03 AM

Here it is mounted:

and the side by side comparison of the stock can and the new leo vince:

As you can see the Leo is much smaller, and looks way better. Now I am going to go ride it in this freezing weather, i'll let you guys know what I think.

Oni · 11-30-2007, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRed

I just spoke with STAINTUNE and they are looking for a donor bike to manufacture an exhaust for the GX. I have offered them my bike for a few days after Christmas and they should then be able to offer a Staintune system late Feb/March.

Please tell them to make it quiet as possible. I'd like to get rid of the stock water heater sized can and cat heat maker...but don't want to make a bunch of noise.

Wish FMF would make a Q for it!

Olas · 11-30-2007, 11:41 AM

Hah, not even 7 miles into a ride and I burn 2 holes (decent size too) in to my pant leg. Oops! Watch out for that pipe. As far as loudness, it is louder than stock but I don't think it's unreasonable. It's very "crisp" and I like the sound of it. Ok, now i'm going for a real ride.

11-24-2007, 11:55 PM	#62
Max Kool Xtankteam™ Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Windmillonia Oddometer: 3,207	It's not that dramatic. The stock exhaust weighs 5,5 kgs (around 12 lbs) and the Leovince weighs around 3 kgs. So the weight difference is around 2 kgs. __________________ Click here for an auxiliary sidetank for the BMW Xchallenge . Click here for a recalibrated speedo ring for the BMW G650X series .

11-26-2007, 11:06 AM	#63
alfaris MOTERO TORERO Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Oddometer: 1,084	Does anyone know what would happen if mount NO INSERT on the Leovince X3????? __________________ 11´ BMW R1200GS ADVENTURE 09´ KTM 530 EXC 07´ XR650R 06´BMW HP2 ENDURO

11-26-2007, 11:20 AM	#64
Max Kool Xtankteam™ Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Windmillonia Oddometer: 3,207	BRAAAAPP!!! __________________ Click here for an auxiliary sidetank for the BMW Xchallenge . Click here for a recalibrated speedo ring for the BMW G650X series .

11-26-2007, 12:09 PM	#66
Max Kool Xtankteam™ Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Windmillonia Oddometer: 3,207	The bolts are stainless steel, into the stainless steel back end plate. If there is only a tiny wire edge or barr between the thread, you will strip the complete thread off. They should have used plated bolts imho. __________________ Click here for an auxiliary sidetank for the BMW Xchallenge . Click here for a recalibrated speedo ring for the BMW G650X series .

11-26-2007, 02:56 PM	#67
alfaris MOTERO TORERO Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Oddometer: 1,084	MAxKool You were right. This FIM insert is simply unaffordable in terms not only of social acceptance but on your own ears and shame. I just turn on the engine on the garage and the crazy thunder exploded. I turned off immediately and went back to EURO insert. I simply cannot feel myself for even going through the corner with that FIM insert, i would not feel well and also i do not want to be spotted everywhere i go. I would not mount it even at Morocco. __________________ 11´ BMW R1200GS ADVENTURE 09´ KTM 530 EXC 07´ XR650R 06´BMW HP2 ENDURO

11-24-2007, 09:49 PM	#61
Ice The Frozen Tundra Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Indya-no-place Oddometer: 58	I am curious what the weight difference is between the stock can and any of the aftermarket mufflers which have been installed. The stock exhaust muffler on the X Challenge looks like a bazooka. Big and heavy looking. 10 pound weight savings maybe ??

11-26-2007, 04:35 PM	#68
SteveRed ^OP Adventure Mojo Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Sydney Hills - Australia Oddometer: 2,676	Staintune Exhaust I just spoke with STAINTUNE and they are looking for a donor bike to manufacture an exhaust for the GX. I have offered them my bike for a few days after Christmas and they should then be able to offer a Staintune system late Feb/March. __________________ Agito ergo sum - I ride therefore I am! http://www.adventuremoto.com.au Your ride.. Your adventure!

11-26-2007, 05:22 PM	#69
GB Mod Squad Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Oddometer: 53,498	Good work!! I posted this reply in the Threadfest: Excellent Steve!! See if you can score me a discount or a demo unit!! It was MY idea after all!! Remind them that the LeoVince comes up short on the heat shield where it joins to the header pipe. so they need to create something to improve on that.. p.s. tell them I like it quiet! __________________ ADV decals, patches & flag? Here

11-28-2007, 02:39 AM	#71
Dirt Hugger Urban Adventurer Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Jo'burg, South Africa Oddometer: 62	Two words: Leo Vince New XChallenge arrived yesterday, traded the 1200GS... I also fitted the Leo Vince X3 slip-on... My initial thoughts: For me the sound level is just about perfect with the road legal Euro insert (the insert that was already fitted). It completely transforms the bike with regards to throttle response - immediate action on the back wheel. If you are looking for something as quiet as the stock can, this is not it, though... I think MaxCool summed it up quite nicely: "LeoVince with legal insert: fruity clear bark, but still legallish" - with the focus on the "ish"... I agree about fitting an additional heat shield to the header just before the end can. So far I am a happy camper! __________________ To be always relevant, you have to say things which are eternal 2007 XChallenge 2004 R1200GS 2002 KTM 640 Adventure R 1998 Honda XR600R

11-28-2007, 05:30 AM	#72
GB Mod Squad Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Oddometer: 53,498	Steve, Surely Staintune will give you a can if they borrow your bike... it's understood!! Well, by Dirt Hugger's description, it sounds like the LeoVince will be too loud for me.. let's see what Staintune does.. __________________ ADV decals, patches & flag? Here

11-30-2007, 10:03 AM	#73
Olas the darkness Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Oddometer: 3,588	Leo Vince on the Country Here it is mounted: and the side by side comparison of the stock can and the new leo vince: As you can see the Leo is much smaller, and looks way better. Now I am going to go ride it in this freezing weather, i'll let you guys know what I think. __________________ Rebuild threads: '92 XT600, '87 XR250R Lighten up, Francis.

11-30-2007, 11:41 AM	#75
Olas the darkness Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Oddometer: 3,588	Hah, not even 7 miles into a ride and I burn 2 holes (decent size too) in to my pant leg. Oops! Watch out for that pipe. As far as loudness, it is louder than stock but I don't think it's unreasonable. It's very "crisp" and I like the sound of it. Ok, now i'm going for a real ride. __________________ Rebuild threads: '92 XT600, '87 XR250R Lighten up, Francis.

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