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Old 08-21-2008, 10:45 AM   #916
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I hear mixed reviews, but overall favorable.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-....html?hhTest=1

http://www.equipped.org/blog/?p=82

http://www.geosalliance.com/sar/
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:06 AM   #917
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"I don't need a First Aid Kit, or Survival Gear or Skills or Training! No, When I get in trouble, all I need is my SPOT, and all those specially trained people will drop everying and come to help ME?

Out of Gas? SPOT!

Can't Tell which way to Turn? SPOT!

Tired and want a ride home? SPOT!

Run out of clean underwear? SPOT!

There's NOTHING you can't do with SPOT!

With SPOT you are a better Climber, you can corner faster and those dunes are not as steep! With SPOT you look better and feel better and your breath is fresher too!

So say good-bye to personal responsility with SPOT!"

Disclaimer: Limited time offer, service not available in all areas, experience of rescue personnel may vary and is not guarenteed by service provider. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:26 AM   #918
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chatted with them at EAA. they seemed a bit rushed to market.

I think they will not survive since it will be included in most cell phones in near future.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372864

this thread not giving very good reviews
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282391
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:08 PM   #919
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Disclaimer: Limited time offer, service not available in all areas, experience of rescue personnel may vary and is not guarenteed by service provider. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:44 PM   #920
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I rode to Alaska from SC and the SPOT worked perfectly. My family and friends followed my trip and always knew where I was. I couldn't have been more pleased with its performance. However, it will NOT penetrate tree cover. It is virtually useless in the back roads of the Smokey mountains. I literally went 150 miles last weekend without a succesful track update.

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Old 08-21-2008, 06:56 PM   #921
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Originally Posted by Manuel Garcia O'Kely
"I don't need a First Aid Kit, or Survival Gear or Skills or Training! No, When I get in trouble, all I need is my SPOT, and all those specially trained people will drop everying and come to help ME?

Out of Gas? SPOT!

Can't Tell which way to Turn? SPOT!

Tired and want a ride home? SPOT!

Run out of clean underwear? SPOT!

There's NOTHING you can't do with SPOT!

With SPOT you are a better Climber, you can corner faster and those dunes are not as steep! With SPOT you look better and feel better and your breath is fresher too!

So say good-bye to personal responsility with SPOT!"

Disclaimer: Limited time offer, service not available in all areas, experience of rescue personnel may vary and is not guarenteed by service provider. Your mileage may vary.
Do you have a cell phone?
If you boat offshore, do you have a VHF radio?
Do you carry a spare tire in the trunk?
This isn't a replacement for any training or piece of equipment or safety gear. It's just another tool.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:34 PM   #922
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...I think they will not survive since it will be included in most cell phones in near future....
Believe it or not, there are quite a few parts of even the US that have little or no cell phone coverage -- that's the utility of SPoT. And few of us can afford to have our satellite phones call in every 10 minutes (or at 5 second intervals as suggested in the cell phone GPS thread).

I don't know if they'll survive either, but I hope so as they serve a niche that I spend a lot of time in.

Cheers.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:39 AM   #923
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Believe it or not, there are quite a few parts of even the US that have little or no cell phone coverage -- that's the utility of SPoT. And few of us can afford to have our satellite phones call in every 10 minutes (or at 5 second intervals as suggested in the cell phone GPS thread).

I don't know if they'll survive either, but I hope so as they serve a niche that I spend a lot of time in.

Cheers.
Also: Every cell phone I've ever used has been a complete battery hog when in low/no-service areas... The spot is supposedly good for two weeks of ten-minute updates before it needs freshly charged batteries.

I have a GPS-enabled cell phone. I like having it, but I wouldn't rely on it, particularly on a long trip in the boonies. And it certainly wouldn't help if I were out on a deep-sea fishing trip.
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:52 AM   #924
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Originally Posted by Manuel Garcia O'Kely
"I don't need a First Aid Kit, or Survival Gear or Skills or Training! No, When I get in trouble, all I need is my SPOT, and all those specially trained people will drop everying and come to help ME?

Out of Gas? SPOT!

Can't Tell which way to Turn? SPOT!

Tired and want a ride home? SPOT!

Run out of clean underwear? SPOT!

There's NOTHING you can't do with SPOT!

With SPOT you are a better Climber, you can corner faster and those dunes are not as steep! With SPOT you look better and feel better and your breath is fresher too!

So say good-bye to personal responsility with SPOT!"

Disclaimer: Limited time offer, service not available in all areas, experience of rescue personnel may vary and is not guarenteed by service provider. Your mileage may vary.
Do you really think that's my and other's attitude about this device?

A unnecessary "emergency" call can come with some pretty stiff penalties.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:17 AM   #925
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chatted with them at EAA. they seemed a bit rushed to market.

I think they will not survive since it will be included in most cell phones in near future.
I'm just adding my $0.02 to what several others have already said in response to this.

If you have an emergency situation and your Cel phone has coverage, use your cel phone!

SPoT is intended specifically for situations where you don't have cel phone coverage. There's still lots of areas in the good-ol USA where there's none, not to mention big swaths of some third world countries.

SPoT's coverage also extends many miles into many popular off-shore areas, making it useful for boating.

Since a device for sending an emergency message where there is no cell phone coverage might have covered too small a niche, we attempted to broaden the appeal of the product with a few "fun" features, such as tracking mode, to allow the user to do something fun/useful with it in non-emergency situations.
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Old 08-23-2008, 05:41 AM   #926
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I rode to Alaska from SC and the SPOT worked perfectly. My family and friends followed my trip and always knew where I was. I couldn't have been more pleased with its performance. However, it will NOT penetrate tree cover. It is virtually useless in the back roads of the Smokey mountains. I literally went 150 miles last weekend without a succesful track update.

That is good to know because I was thinking about getting one since I almost am always riding alone on unplanned routes under heavy tree cover.

That combined with the other limitations of the unit makes me want to wait a couple of years and see what comes to the market.
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:40 PM   #927
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So I finally got my unit exchanged and activated. It went much more smoothly this time though I do have a couple of comments:

As for the Messenger Name: Some explanation about what this is and how it's used would be useful. My guess is it relates to how the web-portal works - but I'm not sure and couldn't find any indicator to say.

The Messages: Here again, some examples might be useful and spur some more creative uses, perhaps?

All said I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs - The end of next week will be its first test as I head to the East Coast. Looking forward to it!!


UPDATE
So I tried to log in today to my account to verify everything and see why I wasn't getting the alerts I set up...

They show no record of my account OR the email I tied it to. I sent a copy of the confirmation I had along with my email (I will say that the site seemed to hang) when it tried to redirect me to the WELCOME page. I've sent them an email and will keep this thread updated...


ARGGGGGGG!
Bummer.

We talked about Spot, traditional PLBs, SAT phones, and cell phones at the rally, over a camp fire, with your beer. Or maybe it was the night before you gave us beer. Anyway, we had beer.

It was my recomendation to not waste your money on a SPOT because, for example, there are lots of other ways to spend $300.

We also talked about general communication from the road, and there were quite a few good and creative ideas. Since you didn't really get to make a presentation (although leading a ride to the top of the paved US sure was nice!), maybe you can start a communication thread over in the Latin America forum?
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:26 AM   #928
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Spot

FWIT

Emerging Technology

Relatively realible

Cost effective

Decent Web Page

Customer Support NO CLUE

Peace of mind for family and friends

Needs to be mounted so it can see the sky

Not a toy

We spent our money, make your own decision based on solid evidance

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Old 08-24-2008, 09:00 AM   #929
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Last weekend a few North American-based Latin America riders had a little rally in Rocky Mountain National Park. Everyone who attended gave a presentation on something. Basically we sat around a camp fire, ate, and drank, from sun-up until sun-down. The topic of personal safety was one of the most important.

Everyone in attendance knew about SPOT. Some of us had personal experience.

I didn't know that RockiesTwin had been having trouble with REI and SPOT customer service. I found RockiesTwin with his bike under a gas station roof- he was on his way to our campsite, and we had just gotten some coffee in Estes Park.

RockiesTwin, being familiar with Colorado, agreed to lead us to the top of the pass in Rocky Mountain National Park. We got some photos of our bikes in the snow, and then we headed back down. And then RockiesTwin had to leave. He said, "Wait!" and pulled a six-pack out of his side-case. He lamented not being able to stay longer, and we lamented his only bringing a six-pack.

RockiesTwin is planning a huge ride through Latin America. From what I understand, he's doing a lot of really-thorough checking of gear, systems, etc. I'm very interested to find out what kind of safe-arrival-verification procedure he comes up with. From the little of him that I met, I have the impression that he's going to come up with something very valid. Probably with some redundancy.

The "best" scenario I can imagine, for non-US travel, could include a SPOT set on track-mode, properly postitioned for maximum satelite exposure; a gps-enabled PLB; and an Iridium SAT phone. The rider/adventurer would have an established, verified check-in procedure. Since there's no way to know, from the field, if your "ok" message went through, the rider needs to make a phone call or send a text message. (SAT phones allow text messages, and they verify, just like a cell phone, that the message was sent.) The PLB would be for actual life-or-limb threatening emergencies. The SPOT, set on track-mode, would be for trying to locate a lost rider, once the safety people activate search-and-rescue, in the event of a loss of communication/failure to check in, according to the rider's established protocol.

These comments that I'm making on SPOT are directed at someone doing a multi-country expedition into remote areas.

If anyone wants to attack me for my opionions, please read my ride reports first. The big ones are on my sig line.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:48 AM   #930
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Spot reviews

seems to be a lot of downside to this product;


http://www.gpsmagazine.com/comments/000419.php
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