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Old 07-17-2011, 07:24 PM   #38341
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I stop to take the dudes picture, he blows by me on the gas and never looked back. I'm sure he'll just say something like "all you KTM riders look the same"

Met Alacrity and another Oh-Adv rider but his name slips my sun fried brain. I believe he has the 990 at the Swingset's BB2 last weekend.

The trails were sweet. Been years since I got to ride a little bike on such nice trails. I usually ride to and from the trails on the 640 which is about as svelte as Opra, the 250 felt like a motorized mountain bike.


Swing, did you get your phone back? Jack Penton found it and was asking at lunch who lost it. I figured it couldn't be yours, he was ahead of you. Then back at the lot, a guy came though yelling your name holding a phone. I showed him your car and gave a bike description, he said he'd wait for you to come back.
Yup, got my phone, thanks for pointing me out.

And yes, all you Katoom riders look alike. Orange, with some black....there were only 150 of you there not like I'd have any trouble picking you out.

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Old 07-17-2011, 07:34 PM   #38342
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Met Alacrity and another Oh-Adv rider but his name slips my sun fried brain. I believe he has the 990 at the Swingset's BB2 last weekend..
That would be me. Nice to have breakfast with you Mike.
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Old 07-17-2011, 07:56 PM   #38343
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Sorry I forgot your name, should remember Gabby, it was the nick-name of my neighbor and dad's co-worker growing up.



I need to get south more, I have a yearly permit for Wayne so maybe someday we can meet up for a ride
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Old 07-17-2011, 08:15 PM   #38344
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I can't believe that Sion didn't mention that he finally got to ride part of Swingset's BBA II route yesterday too. Had him doing some breakin miles on the new Super Sherpa and me on the KTM690. Put over 200 miles with lots of backroads and gravel on the way up and back. Happened to stumble on some sections of the Bootleg and looked like they had some nice routes set up. Rode across the walkway of a bridge under construction and was chased by several dogs. For some reason the dogs really hated me on the 690 but in both cases they totally ignored Sion on the Sherpa. I think the Sherpa may have some cloaking or stealth device installed. Decided on this ride that I need to do something with the seat on the 690. Better than the last time I put more than 100 miles on it, and was able to do about 150 miles on the GS-A today with the wife, but it is just brutal and I know sion was feeling the Sherpa too. Par for the course, stopped for one picture.
I hadn't gotten around to pulling the pics off my phone til I saw your post...so I'll jump in here with my take. First off, thanks again to Swingset (aka Craig) for creating the route in the first place...and to Steve for letting me ride one of his bikes again.

speaking of the bike, its an 09 Kawi Sherpa 250, as seen here:



cant remember what road this was taken on, but Steve was busy GPSing trying to make sure we were still on route...meanwhile, I circled back 100 feet or so and took this picture of some guys shed made up to look like a dugout. Must be a big Cleveland Indians fan, coz I remember see a couple other Indians things in the yard.

Anyway, the bike: when I threw my leg over it at Steve's at 715 am saturday morning...she had 58 miles on the odo....when we got back she had 281...big day for a new bike...and for my ass as well...yowch...anyway, for a bike utterly unfarkled or modded in any way, she did alright. Very capable bike in stock fettle. Took everything we tossed her way (mostly pavement and gavel) and kept asking for more. And more we kept giving her. The section of Swingsets route called BBA Optional 3 was a real treat and challenge for both of us:

(cant control how the RWGPS maps come up...but for a better view of this section, zoom in a bit and click on the drop-menu in the upper right corner for the satellite view)



it started off as some nice dirt two track...but quickly degenerated into not much more than a path through the grasses/weeds/bushes....only semi difficult because the overgrowth hid many of the holes and ruts...there were a few mudholes that were no problem but prolly would have been horrendous 6 or 8 weeks ago when it was still wet. but the real fun was still to come... the last mile or so of this section was uphill most of the way...fairly steep uphill and pretty much gnarly, rocky, and rutted and I cant wait to take the XR up there and ride it again. sorry, no pics but maybe Craig has some he can toss in here. But I'll hand it to the Sherpa that she handled it with aplomb. I never thought I was gonna get stuck or not have the grunt to make it...in fact, I'm pretty sure I did the whole climb in 3rd, then 2nd gear...never had to resort to 1st gear tractoring....Steve on the KTM just blasted up it, of course.

The Sherpa does have some flaws, like all bikes. The stock suspension is pretty much gooey-soft...needs some major stiffening, particularly up front...and I found the brakes adequate, but only just. another disc up front would make them grab the way they really should. And of course, given its gearing and carb tune, its not going anywhere in a hurry...but it does go, and even stock it is capable of hitting 70 mph (as indicated on the LED speedo). It does feel kind of...um...light, like maybe I wasnt in complete contact with the road surface...at 70 though, so I dont recommend such speeds. Steve got the bike for his son to learn to ride on, and as such I highly recommend it as a very good starter bike. Capable both on and off road and very nimble handling...the boy should have many happy hours aboard the Sherpa.

here's my pics of the bridge from Steve's post:



we discussed riding across the bridge, as it was sturdy enough, but decided that since the big crosspiece was intact on the other side, thus requiring us to come right back, there wasnt any point.



here's Steve trying to come to grips with his GPS (we all know this feeling, right?) about mid-ride:



now, not to get all political, but here's part of whats wrong with America, in my opinion...even an itty-bitty country cemetery has a big-ass list of rules....



anyway, we had a good long ride, with an excellent lunch stop at Jack Havanna's in Zanesville, where we consumed some tasty bbq wings and pork shanks and, even more welcomed, some nice cold beers to wash the dust from our throats...

and yeah, for some reason, every dog we saw lit out after Steve like he was a rolling slab of pork ribs, to which he would reply with a serious burst of KTM acceleration...but after failing to catch him, they barely glanced my way as I putted past on the Sherpa....the last two, a pair of hound dogs who were in perfect position to nail me from both sides, just looked at me as I blatted slowly around the corner towards them...strange...but I attribute it to my ultra cool personality
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Old 07-17-2011, 08:30 PM   #38345
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Speaking of the Bootleg, here's a few photos from the Caveman section I took. Just photos for now, man it was hot, I don't know how some of those guys kept going. :o




















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Old 07-17-2011, 08:54 PM   #38346
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:59 AM   #38347
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Speaking of the Bootleg, here's a few photos from the Caveman section I took. Just photos for now, man it was hot, I don't know how some of those guys kept going. :o
Kept going, I don't know how they started going on that!
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:15 AM   #38348
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The heat's why I bailed out of the caveman sections.

I wonder how many people actually tried those sections? I did 1 & 2 and something called a bunny trail which weren't bad for someone with skill but for anyone lacking confidence, or crappy tires, they were a nightmare. There were very few tire tracks when I did go through them. Section 3 started the real hard stuff which was those rocks. I started section 3 when I dabbed off a rock with nothing to touch down on except what was 30" below me. So I had to bail leaving the bike upside down (to which I believe there is video evidence of). When I picked the bike up sweat was pouring out of ever pore in my body and my eyes were burning from it so I just hit the road to cool down.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:26 AM   #38349
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I didn't even attempt the caveman sections, kudos to the guys that did.

For someone of my age and skill it's a game of diminishing returns. I look at a giant rock pile and think "self, is there something on the other side of those rocks that's so glorious I need to ride over them for? What's that? A t-shirt if I succeed? Fuck that, t-shirts are really really cheap and a broken fibula is not."

Yeah, there's the satisfaction thing....but I got really satisfied when I conquered Super Mario Brothers. I'm fine with not riding over a huge pile of rocks at this point in my life.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:27 AM   #38350
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Hopefully our ride to vintage days will be a little less gruesome.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:30 AM   #38351
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I didn't even attempt the caveman sections, kudos to the guys that did.

For someone of my age and skill it's a game of diminishing returns.


You aren't that old, though I did notice AARP members did seem to outnumber those without gray hair.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:41 AM   #38352
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You aren't that old, though I did notice AARP members did seem to outnumber those without gray hair.
[Indiana Jones] It ain't the years, it's the mileage [/Indiana Jones]

Even when I was younger I never really rode with any discipline or training, just jumped on in total ignorance and rode...never had the money or connections to learn offroad by anyone that knew what they were doing, so I never even tried anything that required trials skills, and my bike was utterly inappropriate for it. I paid for that naivete too, 25 years later I still have lingering shoulder stingers and knee issues from wrecking when I was a teenager.

Coming back to it so much later in life, it's hard to instill that skill set without a learning curve that involves some broken stuff (me and the bike). I look at some things like that and think "Yeah, if I wasn't worried about going to work Monday, I would do it". And, that's true, I know I have the physical ability to do that stuff but I'm not ready for the damage. In a chicken shit way, just knowing I could and would if things were different is kinda enough for me.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:01 AM   #38353
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I reviewed all my video and it looks like I won't have anything worthy of submitting to Americas Funniest Home Video, so there goes my $10k.


Mike there were several people who got to the last section and decided their skid plate was worth more than a t-shirt. There was one guy who did an endo off the table rock close to the end and went into the ditch with the bike coming down on top of him. He was okay but with all the trees all the photo shows is a blue spot between a background of green and brown.
I'm a little sun burned today so it will be a good day to stay inside and get video up on You tube from the ride.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:06 AM   #38354
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does that mean you dont have me falling off the first rock on video
didnt get to see anyone for long, had to preride and check arrows
that was a shit load of great single track
hope you guys had fun
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:23 AM   #38355
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That would be me. Nice to have breakfast with you Mike.
You were at Swingset's ride last Saturday? I assume you were the guy out front with Swingset and Sean? I was there on my black DL650 with TKCs.
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