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Old 07-20-2011, 10:32 PM   #38446
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.... stop reminding me that this is small minded college town most days.
Do you really mean to insult the entire town due to the behavior of a few people at a game? Come on now, you've been here long enough to realize that most central Ohioans are good people. It's just the very vocal and usually inhebriated few that give the rest of us a bad name at times.
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:50 AM   #38447
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Do you really mean to insult the entire town due to the behavior of a few people at a game? Come on now, you've been here long enough to realize that most central Ohioans are good people. It's just the very vocal and usually inhebriated few that give the rest of us a bad name at times.
I do get carried away at times.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:00 AM   #38448
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MGorman, Edhead and I along with another friend of Mikes are meeting at the IHOP at 21 and 30 for the jaunt over to vintage days tomorrow morning. Open invite if anyone cares to join us.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:08 AM   #38449
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What does OVI stand for?
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:10 AM   #38450
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:57 AM   #38451
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What does OVI stand for?
It's the updated legal abbreviation for what used to be DUI, them OMVI, now OVI. When the law was updated several years ago they changed it.

Operating Vehicle Intoxicated (under Influence)
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:10 AM   #38452
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It's the updated legal abbreviation for what used to be DUI, them OMVI, now OVI.
or Our Vehicle's Impounded for short. Unless it's COPs on TV then it's just an Overly Vocal Idiot
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:10 AM   #38453
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OFCC can finally publish this threat to execute a citizen for doing nothing wrong.

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Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:20 AM   #38454
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MGorman, Edhead and I along with another friend of Mikes are meeting at the IHOP at 21 and 30 for the jaunt over to vintage days tomorrow morning. Open invite if anyone cares to join us.
What time?
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:41 AM   #38455
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Free is good...

Anybody with an F800GS want a free Supertrapp exhaust? I guess they need a test fit bike, and once they finish producing them - you get yours for free. They are somewhere up here on the southwest side of Cleveland.

I'm not interested, but I figured maybe someone else here is?

PM me and I'll put you in touch with the guy you need to talk to.

I'm not affiliated with the company FYI. Just helping a buddy out.
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:10 AM   #38456
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:55 AM   #38457
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Anybody with an F800GS want a free Supertrapp exhaust? I guess they need a test fit bike, and once they finish producing them - you get yours for free. They are somewhere up here on the southwest side of Cleveland.

I'm not interested, but I figured maybe someone else here is?

PM me and I'll put you in touch with the guy you need to talk to.

I'm not affiliated with the company FYI. Just helping a buddy out.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:06 PM   #38458
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NM... working after all
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:35 PM   #38459
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OFCC can finally publish this threat to execute a citizen for doing nothing wrong.

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First I'd watched that. I'd seen the thread over at OFCC but couldn't view the video at work, and I forgot to go back and view it later at home.

A few thoughts, in no particular order:

The officer making the majority of the statements is a dick. No doubt about it. I know guys like him, I hate being associated with guys like him, you can tell from his attitude and his appearance (black gloves from the onset of the stop, really?) that he thinks an awful lot of himself. I hate cops like that. They get other cops mired in shit because they are assholes.

Both those officers have shitty officer safety skills (Q: who searches a backseat with the driver still in the car? A: No one except that guy). I'm gonna guess that the realization that they had been poking around while a guy with a gun sat a foot away from them caused them to realize that their skills were lacking and lash out at him... truth is they are lucky he had a CCW and wanted to stay legal because if he was a scroat criminally packing, he could have shot both of them with very little effort had he wanted to.

The main officer's investigative skills are on par with those of my dick. Generally, when I ask a question, I listen to the answer, because, after all, I'm the one who asked. I try to not start interrupting after one or two words and screaming at the suspect.

It may not be relevant to the "failure to notify" deal, but I do have doubts about the driver / defendant's truthfulness - he was with a prostitute and some other guy who was lying about his identity, and in a shitty shithole part of town in the wee hours; it certainly would give me concern while dealing with the driver. But if I had that concern, I would have had him exit the car and I would have adressed it initially, not after 6 minutes of snooping around in his backseat.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:54 PM   #38460
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Good thoughts, Meef. Obviously no one in the profession has to respond to this, but I'd be curious to hear if I'm crazy. My money on why the driver was still in the vehicle is so that the cops could do a warrantless search of any "lunge area" (under the back seat?) "for their safety" and anything they find would be admissible.

If they had him step out of the vehicle, they would've needed a warrant for a legal search.

If that's so, given the fact they immediately did that with no discussion or anything, it makes me think that is routine SOP, at least for those guys, if not for many more LEO. I can't believe how dangerous that is for them! Let alone an abuse of the Bill of Rights.

Second, I don't know what's more disgusting, the cop's brazen actions (he knew he was being taped), his partner's passive approval of the whole thing, or his department's repeated attempts over the past few weeks to stall, obfuscate, and cover up. Yeah, I know things have to go through their legal dept and Internal Affairs and such, but there isn't anything in that video to "investigate". That's what really chaps me. I'm extremely pro law enforcement, and thank the good cops everywhere for the dangerous job they do on society's behalf. But it seems like more bad apples are being found all the time... and the apples are getting worse.
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