Adventure in Ohio? - Page 3109

indypup · 03-22-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mgorman

Depends Mr Meef

If you're worried about front wheel traction, get your butt up on the tank and your leg cantilevered forward to transfer all your weight to the front.

Most guys will put a foot out to catch them if they start to fall, however most don't realize they'er going too fast to do any good. Off-road it's that same reasoning but also to keep your foot from getting snagged between the frame and a rut or similar land feature while leaned over.

My issue with the leg forward, my foot hits something and my knee cap tries to bend my bars out of the way (just ask Indy). Doesn't always work for long femurs! I learned after knee surgery to corner feet up but lately I've been working on corner speed and have had to revert back to foot forward

Sometimes traction is so good you don't need to

lol, I can now see why that light got bent with your leg out like that. Man, that looks scary! All I can think about is breaking my leg... :(

sion · 03-22-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by S2P

Hey Dox
You get a chance to see the sex stone that fell in Athens?

I saw a little about it on the news.

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Originally Posted by indypup

I rode down to Athens on wednesday to go to Jackie O's pub for a fish sammich and a couple craft beers (mmmmmm good) and got to talkin to someone there who told me about the rock (showed me a picture on his phone). after leaving the pub, I tried to ride over and have a look, but between the cops and the cleanup crew, I couldnt get within 100 feet of it...didnt even get a glimpse

indypup · 03-23-2012, 12:45 AM

sion · 03-23-2012, 01:19 AM

Looks like a fun riding, Rog...

indypup · 03-23-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sion

Looks like a fun riding, Rog...

Moto Supreme...it's just some farmers very hilly land that he turn into off-road park. Free and open to everyone too. He takes care of the trails just as a hobby since he retired. Pretty cool place.

mgorman · 03-23-2012, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by swingset

they talk about a modification for guys with bad knees and/or long legs, which is to raise your foot off the peg, and push your knee forward along the tank (basically the same as leg-forward but with your foot curled under).

That's what I do on turns that require lots of lean angle or have a high inside like an off-camber. Battlesburg has a lot of these turns

vivid dadas · 03-23-2012, 04:25 AM

I was very surprised to see the Moto GP guys occasionally touch a foot down, seems like it was usually on very hard acceleration coming out of slow corners. The deal seemed to be the Moto GP bikes are just so squirrelly in some situations, that they just need to right the ship. I can't remember for sure but it seems to me like it was usually the outside foot, (right hand turn, left foot touches.)

indypup · 03-23-2012, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by vivid dadas

I was very surprised to see the Moto GP guys occasionally touch a foot down, seems like it was usually on very hard acceleration coming out of slow corners. The deal seemed to be the Moto GP bikes are just so squirrelly in some situations, that they just need to right the ship. I can't remember for sure but it seems to me like it was usually the outside foot, (right hand turn, left foot touches.)

I've seen the Doctor do that a lot...

z@ch · 03-23-2012, 04:40 AM

The GP guys do it coming into a turn. Puts more weight on the front wheel and also distracts any riders thinking about an inside pass.

mgorman · 03-23-2012, 05:49 AM

If you watch those GP guys, they are even using their right braking foot and using 100% front brake unless there is a splitter in the line some place.

Rich B · 03-23-2012, 05:54 AM

If you want to really learn to slide a bike....need to try riding on ice. Loose pea gravel is the next best choice IMO.

Since this applies to flat track style riding...probably doesn't apply to anything else

When you carry enough speed into a corner, you want the bike to go into a 2 wheel drift. Some of the Moto GP and superbike guys are doing that on asphalt

As the bike goes into a 2 wheel drift, lean into the corner - a lot, use the outside leg to push down on the peg, inside leg needs to be planted firmly, and lift up on the inside bar as you turn on the power. You should be in a full slide at that point. As speed scrubs off, lifting up on the inside bar will get the front wheel to start to bite again. When you get it right, for a brief period, your inside leg and inside arm will be doing A LOT of work. As the front tire starts to bite and the power at the rear starts to hook up again, you will feel the weight on your inside leg drop off.....time to put it back on the peg and keep dialing on power......

If you are carrying enough speed through a corner....as the rear starts driving, you can actually get to a point where the front wheel is not in contact with the ground, both feet are up, and the bike is still a bit sideways. About as much fun as you can have on a motorcycle and DAMN hard to get to that point skill wise. But it is worth it

If you spend a day riding on ice/pea gravel and practicing your slides.....when you are done, your left leg and arm will be sore.....

Just describing a good slide makes me miss that type of riding......been a while...damn

mgorman · 03-23-2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich B

..as the rear starts driving, you can actually get to a point where the front wheel is not in contact with the ground, both feet are up, and the bike is still a bit sideways.

Did that to a kid Sunday while passing him on the inside, freaked him out enough he swerved off and slowed. I guess i was crowding his space.

ScienceOfDirt · 03-23-2012, 06:22 AM

I miss drifting too. We used to go on a horse racetrack (Ascot). That soft dirt was the best thing to fall in.

GailCallsMeKarl · 03-23-2012, 12:08 PM

So I think I've reached maximum frustration with my current stable. The CRF is going to be ridiculously expensive to get a front wheel/tire combo for and she's still HEAVY. For now, it will be the road bike, but I'm betting I sell it before fall.

Any opinions on the XT225? I've only talked to raving fans. I'm looking for the downside to this bike. Obviously I will most likely want something more at some point, but I want something I can ride at Tar Hollow, Wayne, Danville and enjoy myself. The TTR, even if by some miracle I get it titled & road legal, is still just a 125 and I'm only going to want to trailer it places.

I need something I can actually ride somewhere to play. I found a cheap one for $1200 with only 1800 miles on it on CL.

In case you wondered:

	TTR125	XT225	CRF230
Seat Height	31.7	31.9	31.7
Weight	172	238	276

KTM 250 XCF weighs in at just 220. Seat height of over 38".

One other RFS has lowered hers 4". I might be able to pull that off eventually.

Or we need to stuff some motor in a TTR frame......

I think I'm going to start a company that sells serious, tiny trail bikes for girls and they won't be f'ing pink. (that's my other bitch for the day, finding MX pants that aren't pink or flowery.....really? really??)

sorry, I'm cranky today. I quit facebook and I've got to rant to somebody.

blackdiamondmike · 03-23-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GailCallsMeKarl

So I think I've reached maximum frustration with my current stable. The CRF is going to be ridiculously expensive to get a front wheel/tire combo for and she's still HEAVY. For now, it will be the road bike, but I'm betting I sell it before fall.

Any opinions on the XT225? I've only talked to raving fans. I'm looking for the downside to this bike. Obviously I will most likely want something more at some point, but I want something I can ride at Tar Hollow, Wayne, Danville and enjoy myself. The TTR, even if by some miracle I get it titled & road legal, is still just a 125 and I'm only going to want to trailer it places.

I need something I can actually ride somewhere to play. I found a cheap one for $1200 with only 1800 miles on it on CL.

In case you wondered:

	TTR125	XT225	CRF230
Seat Height	31.7	31.9	31.7
Weight	172	238	276

KTM 250 XCF weighs in at just 220. Seat height of over 38".

One other RFS has lowered hers 4". I might be able to pull that off eventually.

Or we need to stuff some motor in a TTR frame......

I think I'm going to start a company that sells serious, tiny trail bikes for girls and they won't be f'ing pink. (that's my other bitch for the day, finding MX pants that aren't pink or flowery.....really? really??)

sorry, I'm cranky today. I quit facebook and I've got to rant to somebody.

Buildit had one a couple years ago that was in great shape that I think he sold for about that amount. He could probable advise you. 238 pounds sounds a little low, I'd be suprised if that number isn't overly optimistic and the actual weight wasn't closer to that of the crf230l. I'd say buy one if you can swing it and try it out. You could even take an electric carving knife to the foam seat and shave an inch or two from the seat height. -Mike

Edit: You may also be able to loosen the triple clamp and slide the forks up a bit to lower the xt225.

03-23-2012, 12:45 AM	#46623
indypup ╭∩╮( º.º )╭∩╮ Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Troy, OHIO Oddometer: 2,322	From last weekend in Indiana... __________________ If there's no video...it didn't happen 2007 ST1300, 2008 KLR650, 2008 WR250R, 1995 Ninja 250R Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist hangs his head out the window! Be real, be whole, be innovative.

03-23-2012, 01:19 AM	#46624
sion sigh-own Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Hocking Hills Oddometer: 2,839	Looks like a fun riding, Rog... __________________ I say, there's no such thing as a bad day's riding. -metaljockey whats the value of good gear?: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=49301

03-23-2012, 04:25 AM	#46627
vivid dadas Studly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Thumbolia Oddometer: 831	I was very surprised to see the Moto GP guys occasionally touch a foot down, seems like it was usually on very hard acceleration coming out of slow corners. The deal seemed to be the Moto GP bikes are just so squirrelly in some situations, that they just need to right the ship. I can't remember for sure but it seems to me like it was usually the outside foot, (right hand turn, left foot touches.) __________________ "I went to the Town of Cats and came back on the train."

03-23-2012, 05:49 AM	#46630
mgorman Crashing since 1964 Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Massillon, Ohio Oddometer: 4,288	If you watch those GP guys, they are even using their right braking foot and using 100% front brake unless there is a splitter in the line some place. __________________ Michael

03-23-2012, 05:54 AM	#46631
Rich B Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Stone Creek, OH Oddometer: 320	If you want to really learn to slide a bike....need to try riding on ice. Loose pea gravel is the next best choice IMO. Since this applies to flat track style riding...probably doesn't apply to anything else When you carry enough speed into a corner, you want the bike to go into a 2 wheel drift. Some of the Moto GP and superbike guys are doing that on asphalt As the bike goes into a 2 wheel drift, lean into the corner - a lot, use the outside leg to push down on the peg, inside leg needs to be planted firmly, and lift up on the inside bar as you turn on the power. You should be in a full slide at that point. As speed scrubs off, lifting up on the inside bar will get the front wheel to start to bite again. When you get it right, for a brief period, your inside leg and inside arm will be doing A LOT of work. As the front tire starts to bite and the power at the rear starts to hook up again, you will feel the weight on your inside leg drop off.....time to put it back on the peg and keep dialing on power...... If you are carrying enough speed through a corner....as the rear starts driving, you can actually get to a point where the front wheel is not in contact with the ground, both feet are up, and the bike is still a bit sideways. About as much fun as you can have on a motorcycle and DAMN hard to get to that point skill wise. But it is worth it If you spend a day riding on ice/pea gravel and practicing your slides.....when you are done, your left leg and arm will be sore..... Just describing a good slide makes me miss that type of riding......been a while...damn __________________ There is a good chance you don't like me. There is a better chance, I don't care!

03-23-2012, 04:40 AM	#46629
z@ch Turn it up to eleven Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Tejas Norte Oddometer: 4,526	The GP guys do it coming into a turn. Puts more weight on the front wheel and also distracts any riders thinking about an inside pass.

03-23-2012, 06:22 AM	#46633
ScienceOfDirt U-Boat Rider Joined: May 2010 Location: Snowbelt/Rustbelt of Northeast Ohio Oddometer: 1,495	I miss drifting too. We used to go on a horse racetrack (Ascot). That soft dirt was the best thing to fall in. __________________ Friend: That was some trail shortcut. Me: Yep. See how fast we got lost.

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