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Old 08-18-2012, 02:54 PM   #51706
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I must be missing something too, as I just don't really see the appeal of the 250cc class. In terms of motox bikes its 15 pounds more for the 450 (243-250 lbs) over the 250cc bikes. And another 25 pounds for an e start wide ratio model for trails bikes. Seems fairly negligible to me when its on 2 wheels.
I 100% agree, but since no one seems to show interest in making a real streetable 450cc dual sport, I see 250's as the best available option.

A WR450R or KLX400S, with all the pluses of the newer 250's, yet 50% more power, would be quite popular I think.

Sadly, they don't exist (in the USA).

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Old 08-18-2012, 03:11 PM   #51707
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Devil bike must go.

Don't know if any of you effing eff's are interested or know somebody that might be. Now I'm used to being in the misdemeanor ticket zone when I ride, but I'm not overly blatant about it and besides cops hardly look a GS's anyway. This bike makes the devil on one shoulder just laugh like a maniac and the angel on the other shoulder piss its robe, so with great reluctance I must sell it.
S1000RR -Excellent condition. Acid green. 3800 miles. Adjustable rear sets, smoke windscreen, under seat tail license mount kit, new rear tire and heilbars. 10,000$$
A different sort of Adventure bike. I'm trying to avoid the adventure of going to jail. Thought I was old enough to ride it it in a more mellow manner. Maybe in another 10years.
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:10 PM   #51708
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Don't know if any of you effing eff's are interested or know somebody that might be. Now I'm used to being in the misdemeanor ticket zone when I ride, but I'm not overly blatant about it and besides cops hardly look a GS's anyway. This bike makes the devil on one shoulder just laugh like a maniac and the angel on the other shoulder piss its robe, so with great reluctance I must sell it.
S1000RR -Excellent condition. Acid green. 3800 miles. Adjustable rear sets, smoke windscreen, under seat tail license mount kit, new rear tire and heilbars. 10,000$$
A different sort of Adventure bike. I'm trying to avoid the adventure of going to jail. Thought I was old enough to ride it it in a more mellow manner. Maybe in another 10years.


I wanna ride it once before you sell it...

meanwhile, whatever happened to the "lets go to gary's house and ride dirt bikes" we talked about at Kingy's Pizza?
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:51 PM   #51709
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Easy answer: There isn't a 450 class of Japanese dual sports here in the states, except the outdated and somewhat lackluster DRZ400s, and the only streetlegal 450's beyond that are Eurobikes...and the high price of admission of those...
I'd love to see Yamaha do a WR450R, or an updated XR400 class bike (with a magic button), but I don't think Japan is interested in it.
Had that discussion at the Honda dealership. There are no 350-500cc bikes in the Japanese lineups. Honda stole the 250CBR engine for the new dualsport, if they had a 350-500cc road bike it could make sense. The local dealership was disappointed that the new bike is a 250.
Fellow down the street is turning wrenches for the Honda dealership now, he actually assembled the 250L 2 days ago. He also does a little dirt racing on Kaws, he very recently bought a Honda 450 with employee discount & said he hated to admit that he really liked the bike. I'll probably try to talk him into a ride around the neighborhood.
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:15 PM   #51710
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Had that discussion at the Honda dealership. There are no 350-500cc bikes in the Japanese lineups. Honda stole the 250CBR engine for the new dualsport, if they had a 350-500cc road bike it could make sense. The local dealership was disappointed that the new bike is a 250.
Fellow down the street is turning wrenches for the Honda dealership now, he actually assembled the 250L 2 days ago. He also does a little dirt racing on Kaws, he very recently bought a Honda 450 with employee discount & said he hated to admit that he really liked the bike. I'll probably try to talk him into a ride around the neighborhood.
I saw the new cbr250 today on their website. Seems red wants to compete in the 250cc commuter sport bike class. Talk about a paradox within itself there.
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:25 PM   #51711
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I was surfing the classifieds and stopped to say hey, I was also wondering if they caught the guy who stole the buttons off of Meef's phone? it's a shame he can't make a phone call.
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:48 PM   #51712
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Perry today

I had a great time at Perry today thanks to Motodirtlover's expert guidance. I would have been lost right after leaving the parking lot if it wasn't for him. I'm glad I decided not to go alone!

Alansz400 joined in on the fun and Big Ohio stopped by on really nice beemer to say hi.

Of course Kory convienced me to do things I never would have otherwise considered and has given me some great riding advice.

Nice meeting Alan and Kory for the first time and seeing Steve again.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:08 PM   #51713
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I was surfing the classifieds and stopped to say hey, I was also wondering if they caught the guy who stole the buttons off of Meef's phone? it's a shame he can't make a phone call.
Hey shitbird, I was sleeping when you called. Stupid third shift. I'm up now. Call me.

I would call you on your cell but... oh yeah, you don't have a cell phone.

I did call the PD for you a few weeks back, talked to BH, she said you were in Colorado or Wyoming...?

You getting a bike again? I think you'd like that Honda NC700X...

Edit, you probably won't see this until 2:00 tomorrow since you don't have the freaking internet at home either, you stone age hillbilly.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:12 PM   #51714
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Just came back from Indy riding with a buddy on a NC700, we were never under 80 mph except in the construction area just east of I465.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:16 PM   #51715
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Several of us rode the WR250Rs back to back with my 450 sx, and I rode them both back to back with my KLR.

I like my KLR, it is a predictable, stone reliable, plodder. It's like a tool box with a pair of vice grips and a hammer, not precise, but it can get most every job done.

The WRR is the same, but with a lot better bounce and I found myself riding over my head on it several times because it made me overconfident, riding it after the KTM made me wishing for just a little more umph. I was jaded though because I had just gotten off of a 50 HP moto bike. After riding Mike's WRR, I decided on the spot that I would own one. It's like adding a craftsman socket set to the toolbox. (costs more to get teh same job done faster)

The 450 is way overkill for Ohio woods riding unless it's rider is fast, that said, I feel like a tamer 450 (like say a WRR) would maybe be the perfect weapon for true Ohio dual sport riding. Being able to comfortable pull 65mph on the road for a long time while having to guts to overtake on hills, predictable suspension, 26k mile valve spring adjustments, etc. As long as the weight stayed down, it could be the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

I think the reason that the big Jap bike makers don't build a 450 is because they are selling these bikes to people all over the world, and America is the only place where consumers will buy a 1000 piece tool kit to build a birdhouse. Not that overkill is a bad thing, I personally love it, but from a profit standpoint, it is a bad thing.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:35 PM   #51716
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The 450 is way overkill
Yeah, the 950 is terrible.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:56 PM   #51717
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:59 PM   #51718
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:36 PM   #51719
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Stoner has “small, marginal” fractures in his right ankle.

Hayden flew into the air too and doctors declared him “unfit to ride.” X-rays also showed Hayden broke two bones in his right hand.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:19 AM   #51720
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Someone forgot the tuck part in "tuck and roll". Any idea how fast he was moving then?
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