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Old 09-23-2012, 09:14 PM   #52726
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but then as soon as you do, some asshole will go roosting by on the edge of control with no muffler and scare the crap out of both the horse and rider with total disregard for eithers safety. On both sides of the fence, there will always be one in every crowd that ruins it for the rest.

true enough...but I think my original point (that there is enough room out there for both horse trails AND moto trails) still stands
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:15 PM   #52727
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On both sides of the fence, there will always be one in every crowd that ruins it for the rest.
The truest part of your statement. Whyd you wait all the way till the end?
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:29 PM   #52728
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Horses and motorcycles don't mix very well
No shit, they cant grip the bars worth a damn with those clumsy ass hooves.

duh.

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Old 09-23-2012, 09:51 PM   #52729
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No shit, they cant grip the bars worth a damn with those clumsy ass hooves.

duh.

You funny guy.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:49 AM   #52730
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true enough...but I think my original point (that there is enough room out there for both horse trails AND moto trails) still stands
Then there's no need to teach a horse tolerate [or ride] a motorcycle is there?
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:18 AM   #52731
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I think what Sion is saying is being misunderstood, that maybe such a big area could be separated and have both hay burner designated trails and trails for motorized vehicles.

Was that so hard? Damn, it's like playin' cards with my brother's kids.....
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:07 AM   #52732
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Was that so hard? Damn, it's like playin' cards with my brother's kids.....
Why? Are you loser there too?
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:19 AM   #52733
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I think what Sion is saying is being misunderstood, that maybe such a big area could be separated and have both hay burner designated trails and trails for motorized vehicles.

Was that so hard? Damn, it's like playin' cards with my brother's kids.....
Well, if it matters I got it.

Fwiw, there are shared use trails out west, where horses bicycles, hikers and motorcycles all have access.

They seem to manage, but this is Ohio and we seem sometimes to believe that we're a world unto ourselves.
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:57 AM   #52734
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...Fwiw, there are shared use trails out west, where horses bicycles, hikers and motorcycles all have access...
I was going to mention that but didn't want to add any more fuel to the fire. ;) I have some video (who would have guessed that?) of when I was in Colorado passing some horses on the trails. They just got off the trail and let me pass with no problems. Goony will be glad to know that I saw some mountain bikers too. ;)
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:50 AM   #52735
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Fwiw, there are shared use trails out west, where horses bicycles, hikers and motorcycles all have access.

They seem to manage, but this is Ohio and we seem sometimes to believe that we're a world unto ourselves.

Getting a MC trail in Ohio is nearly impossible just in spoil land let alone near any other organized trail system. If you read/heard the comments at Burr Oak, you'd understand why. People want what they want, not what anyone else wants as mentioned above and most of all they want absolutely no MC or ATV activities anywhere near where t hey will be. They've been fighting for years to get a mtb trail in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park where mtb's were kicked out from progress of other trial systems.

I have a feeling that most of the people that went to that meeting, even if they got what they wanted, probably would never go there anyhow unless it was a last resort like the person who marked down they wanted all the rooms and kitchens updated in the lodge.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:25 AM   #52736
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Of horses and bikes

Horses can be broke to get used to just about anything (we used them as war machines forever)

Mine are all broke to anything I can think of. You can ride a motorcycle or loud dirt bike right up to mine. I can shoot off 2 of the 3 I have. (the 3rd is a lost cause, she's a goofy broad) It just takes a little time and understanding to get 'em broke.

But here's the deal. Most horse people that trail ride horses don't know a heck of a lot about training horses, or even horses in general. They think if it doesn't buck them off, it's broke. So you've got not very broke horses, that are usually not from the best genetic pool, being ridden by a bunch of novice riders. (that are usually not from the best genetic pool)

They generally annoy me.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:33 AM   #52737
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But here's the deal. Most horse people that trail ride horses don't know a heck of a lot about training horses, or even horses in general. They think if it doesn't buck them off, it's broke. So you've got not very broke horses, that are usually not from the best genetic pool, being ridden by a bunch of novice riders. (that are usually not from the best genetic pool)

They generally annoy me.
This would also seem to describe the pirates on their choppas. They own a motorcycle, ergo they must be a motorcyclist; and they made it 10 miles up the road, ergo their riding skills must be top notch.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:54 AM   #52738
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It stands for Morale, Welfare, and Recreation. It's a place for servicemembers to hang out, watch TV, play games, Skype with the family, etc.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:11 AM   #52739
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Meef (notice the lack of a typo this time ) sez:

"They own a motorcycle, ergo they must be a motorcyclist; and they made it 10 miles up the road, ergo their riding skills must be top notch."

Hey, those type are hardened TT riders....that is tavern to tavern riders. And 7 - 8 miles seems to be the range between fill ups....
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:12 AM   #52740
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Getting a MC trail in Ohio is nearly impossible just in spoil land let alone near any other organized trail system. If you read/heard the comments at Burr Oak, you'd understand why. People want what they want, not what anyone else wants as mentioned above and most of all they want absolutely no MC or ATV activities anywhere near where t hey will be. They've been fighting for years to get a mtb trail in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park where mtb's were kicked out from progress of other trial systems.
I'm getting off topic here a little, but I hear they are finally laying out a mtb trail in Cuyahoga NP as we speak.

Yeah, I totally agree it's BS that there are no motorized trails in the AEP land. I'm pretty sure you can ride a mtn bike there from what I've read though.
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