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Old 12-24-2012, 06:29 AM   #55291
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I ran it dry at 151 miles.
I'm right on then. I need to stop for gas more often. I'm used to 200+ from the KLR.
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:47 AM   #55292
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There is no "gun registry". I wish there was one, I wish it was as simple as running a car's plate number to verify ownership; but sadly all the zealots are terrified that the man will know what guns they own.

Ergo, the 4473 only documents the transaction from the FFL dealer to the original purchaser. That record can be traced by the ATF, but it's not a record readily accessible to any other law enforcement. Even in an active investigation, a request for original purchaser info still has to be sent to the ATF and they reply at their convenience.

After original sale there is no record of person to person transactions, only trasactions from an FFL dealer to a person, such as when a used gun is traded in to a dealer and then resold to another person.

As far as your question, I think a ban is a long time coming, if at all; and will likely not affect your deal. You are waiting on a stripped lower, and that's it? You should be able to find one of those fairly easily still without waiting for the Stag you have on order. Brand is really not important, long as it's mil-spec. I believe the only brand that might be an issue with a build would be a Colt, since some of the holes are not mil spec sized.

Edit, I just reread your original post. I think I misunderstood. You had a complete rifle on order and they failed to deliver it yet; so now you are looking for a lower and parts to do a build? Got it. Sorry...
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:25 AM   #55293
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I live in Columbus, but I'm willing to travel if I can't find anything closer. I'm looking to do a walk-in, so I don't have to mail it. Living in Franklin County, I know I'll not get another lower papered if anything happens to this one.
Any specific reason for that? Offhand in Columbus,I'm not sure who does engraving. I'm sure a search or asking smiths could get results.

Meef,I'm aware there's no registry. And the zealots have a bit of truth. The Fed was supposed to destroy records of 4473 forms,and it's been proven they haven't before. As far as the panic and tin foil hat crowd,it rarely effects them if at all. A stolen firearm registry would be nice. I've got 2 out there that need to come back.

There's also several flaws elsewhere in the purchasing side..many psychologists and mental health professionals don't report to the state,some states don't even report to the Fed about care either. Its left solely up to whoever pencils in the 4473 to not lie on it.

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Old 12-24-2012, 09:17 AM   #55294
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Did you go to the stillers game? Tough loss

no...I was kind of expecting a loss...fits in with the rest of our season...stillers have been snakebit this season
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:36 AM   #55295
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Thanks for the reply and the encouragement Meef, i like many am getting nervous that stag may never come through. It seems like forever but after reading some forums. People were going through this last year and years before with the left hand orders. Either way i'm glad i have bought up some mags and started getting what i need before the wolves kicked in.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:28 PM   #55296
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I have to get a background check from NCSI every year
For what? Just curious. Even with the Federal contract work I do, its only every 5.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:12 PM   #55297
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There is no "gun registry". I wish there was one, I wish it was as simple as running a car's plate number to verify ownership; but sadly all the zealots are terrified that the man will know what guns they own.
It's not a zealous statement to believe the government should not have a registry of your belongings, especially ones that are demonized and vilified by people who fear or don't understand them. Even tho normally this would not present much of a problem for normal people, bad situations like Katrina pointed out that well-meaning people can justify taking a steaming dump on your civil liberties at will. I don't want to assist them in that process, should it ever come to pass.

Put me right in that zealous camp.

Yeah, people can say cars are registered and other items - but they escape that political/emotional scrutiny, and they are also not named specifically in the bill of rights as something that shouldn't be infringed upon.

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Old 12-24-2012, 01:17 PM   #55298
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It's not a zealous statement to believe the government should not have a registry of your belongings, especially ones that are demonized and vilified by people who fear or don't understand them. Even tho normally this would not present much of a problem for normal people, bad situations like Katrina pointed out that well-meaning people can justify taking a steaming dump on your civil liberties at will. I don't want to assist them in that process, should it ever come to pass.

Put me right in that zealous camp.

Yeah, people can say cars are registered and other items - but they escape that political/emotional scrutiny, and they are also not named specifically in the bill of rights as something that shouldn't be infringed upon.

/soap box.

well said

and it must be noted that historically, every time a government wanted to remove guns from the hands of its citizens, it started with a registry of those guns, and promises that they weren't going to be taken away.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:32 PM   #55299
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It's not a zealous statement to believe the government should not have a registry of your belongings, especially ones that are demonized and vilified by people who fear or don't understand them. Even tho normally this would not present much of a problem for normal people, bad situations like Katrina pointed out that well-meaning people can justify taking a steaming dump on your civil liberties at will. I don't want to assist them in that process, should it ever come to pass.

Put me right in that zealous camp.

Yeah, people can say cars are registered and other items - but they escape that political/emotional scrutiny, and they are also not named specifically in the bill of rights as something that shouldn't be infringed upon.

/soap box.
Man Swing, you make it sound like they would publish your name and address in the paper or on the web so everyone could know.

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Old 12-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #55300
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I bought this thing for my xmas present thinking i was ahead of the curve. and really flubbed because i have no xmas present. So in normal fashion I'm going to act reel surprised and open a gun case of my current stash. lol
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:36 PM   #55301
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It's not a zealous statement to believe the government should not have a registry of your belongings, especially ones that are demonized and vilified by people who fear or don't understand them. Even tho normally this would not present much of a problem for normal people, bad situations like Katrina pointed out that well-meaning people can justify taking a steaming dump on your civil liberties at will. I don't want to assist them in that process, should it ever come to pass.

Put me right in that zealous camp.

Yeah, people can say cars are registered and other items - but they escape that political/emotional scrutiny, and they are also not named specifically in the bill of rights as something that shouldn't be infringed upon.

/soap box.

I am right there with you Swing.


I was thinking about a Stag, being a lefty & all, but I just wound up buying a Bushmaster. If TSHTF I'd like to be comfortable picking up any AR & shooting it. I thought the brass would be a problem, but it is not. No big deal for just casual shooting & even less of an issue if it were an emergency. The military only uses right handed ones.


The Sig 226 is not exactly left hand friendly either, but I have gotten pretty good with using the side of my index finger to move the decocking lever.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:43 PM   #55302
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I am right there with you Swing.


I was thinking about a Stag, being a lefty & all, but I just wound up buying a Bushmaster. If TSHTF I'd like to be comfortable picking up any AR & shooting it. I thought the brass would be a problem, but it is not. No big deal for just casual shooting & even less of an issue if it were an emergency. The military only uses right handed ones.


The Sig 226 is not exactly left hand friendly either, but I have gotten pretty good with using the side of my index finger to move the decocking lever.
I was thinking that way back in July i had the exact one right in my hands for 800 and should have bought it right then. Foolish me for thinking that anything will go the way i want it to. Motorcycles have taught me this lesson long ago. :$

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Old 12-24-2012, 02:08 PM   #55303
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You know the feds are monitoring this website, seeing what all kinds of guns you proclaim to have, don't you?
I don't own ANY guns! No, not me! You feds go somewhere else!
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:11 PM   #55304
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You know the feds are monitoring this website, seeing what all kinds of guns you proclaim to have, don't you?
I don't own ANY guns! No, not me! You feds go somewhere else!
hahaha now THATS funny!

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