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Old 08-06-2014, 07:19 AM   #1
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Packing 1200 GSA for Dalton.. Top Box or Large Bag??

Hey Guys. Looking for some advice please.

INFO: I have all 3 OEM panniers.

Planning for next years trip and going to be doing some test runs/trips fully loaded and such.

Several people are saying to ditch the top box and just run a large bag or larger box in passenger seat area.

I am ASSUMING people ditch the top box to get rid of the weight up high on the rear of the bike??

The several smaller 1000 milers i have done, its worked great.

Anyone care to school me on the advantages of removing the top box and replacing it with a large bag? Am i missing something?

Was planning to retain the passenger seat in case of emergency and if we need to 2 up due to a mechanical or something.

Any insight is appreciated. My search came up with mixed results.

Thank you!

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Old 08-06-2014, 07:26 AM   #2
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On bumpy off road, the top cases have been known to launch. YMMV. I have not used this feature on my road going GSA.
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:28 AM   #3
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No worries, the top box works fine. I saw several other GSAs up there with top boxes, besides mine-


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Old 08-06-2014, 10:34 AM   #4
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On bumpy off road, the top cases have been known to launch. YMMV. I have not used this feature on my road going GSA.
For reals??? I have been on WAY more than a "bumpy road" with the top case. I can't see how its possible. What is possible is if the latch is not locked, it could pop open maybe? Even that is suspect because I think the key won't pull out unless its in the locked position.
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:49 AM   #5
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If you've got a quality box and mount set up I personally wouldn't worry about it. I don't like top boxes but granted they are handy. Just use common sense and keep you tools an heavy stuff low in the panniers and keep the top box for lighter items. I ran Jessies bags and top box on an 05 GS and never had any issues with the box or mount. Quality equipment mounted and loaded properly and you'll be fine.
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:52 AM   #6
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I'm looking at all options right now.. I like the idea of keeping the weight low, but also have my top box packed perfectly with all my tools and such.

Not opposed for rearranging everything..

More ideas the better.

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Old 08-06-2014, 10:53 AM   #7
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Yeah.. The top box and all the mounting is all the OEM BMW stuff..

Going to move the tools and heavy stuff to side bag and lighter stuff on top.

Good idea.
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:53 AM   #8
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:52 PM   #9
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That launch was a Vario Top Case. You can bolt the Vario case down to its mount or use clevis pins to secure them. Just remove the clip and push the pins up to release the case from its mount.

I seriously doubt the Adventure/Touratech cases will launch.
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That launch was a Vario Top Case. You can bolt the Vario case down to its mount or use clevis pins to secure them. Just remove the clip and push the pins up to release the case from its mount.

I seriously doubt the Adventure/Touratech cases will launch.
Thinking the same here. The adventure cases are a solid mount design...if it comes off, it wasn't on right (not sure how that would even happen) or you're doing something to the bike that nobody in their right mind should be doing...say riding it down the hill upside-down.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:17 PM   #11
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Are you camping or hoteling it?

If you seer hoteling it then you really should be just fine without needing anything in the topper. When I did AK in 2009 I ran with a completely empty top case, side bags carried everything. This worked great as I now had a place to stash wet rain gear, extra lunch, jack Daniels, etc.

Just my opinion. If you have a top case, use it. But keep the lightest stuff up top, heaviest stuff packed low. This will help with the CG of the bike.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:47 PM   #12
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Are you camping or hoteling it?

If you seer hoteling it then you really should be just fine without needing anything in the topper. When I did AK in 2009 I ran with a completely empty top case, side bags carried everything. This worked great as I now had a place to stash wet rain gear, extra lunch, jack Daniels, etc.

Just my opinion. If you have a top case, use it. But keep the lightest stuff up top, heaviest stuff packed low. This will help with the CG of the bike.
Good info.. Thanks..

Yeah, we will be camping probably 80% of it, staying with friend 10% of it and hoteling possibly 10% but only if the rain is real bad.. I don't mind bad weather but will want a break if it's constant! :)
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:57 AM   #13
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Boston -

I got back from Deadhorse about 7 weeks ago w my 1200GS. I use the Happy Trails pannier system - with the smaller flat top case. The Dalton is generally less severe that the Dempster over in Yukon, but that changes day by day. Before tackling the Haul Road, I deliberately took some of my gear out (50 pounds or so) and left it in Fairbanks to bring down the total weight - you could do the same. No issues with the top case and the road is pretty rough up there in early spring.

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:12 AM   #14
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I got back from Deadhorse about 7 weeks ago w my 1200GS. I use the Happy Trails pannier system - with the smaller flat top case. The Dalton is generally less severe that the Dempster over in Yukon, but that changes day by day. Before tackling the Haul Road, I deliberately took some of my gear out (50 pounds or so) and left it in Fairbanks to bring down the total weight - you could do the same. No issues with the top case and the road is pretty rough up there in early spring.

Thanks.. I really dig that lower and wider box in the rear.. Never seen that.. Good stuff!

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