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Old 11-26-2010, 04:59 AM   #616
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I don't mean to be antagonistic, but what is it with some people's problem with burning food wrappers/waste on the fire, or even having a fire at all? I understand that burning things isn't the most eco-friendly means of disposal if you normally live in a highly populace city with recycling facilities, but out in the styxx? It's fine, relax.

So long as you have the fire responsibly, ideally, so that there is no sign that there was a fire there at all and there is no waste left, there's nothing wrong with this IMO. We've had fire for millenia; it's not like it is somehow 'unnatural', new or polluting on an industrial scale. When you are out bike camping, if you live in the west, you are almost certainly doing less environmental damage by just riding your bike and burning litter than you would be in your normal day to day life.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:43 AM   #617
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if you live in the west, you are almost certainly doing less environmental damage by just riding your bike and burning litter than you would be in your normal day to day life.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:57 AM   #618
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:59 AM   #619
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I don't mean to be antagonistic, but what is it with some people's problem with burning food wrappers/waste on the fire, or even having a fire at all? I understand that burning things isn't the most eco-friendly means of disposal if you normally live in a highly populace city with recycling facilities, but out in the styxx? It's fine, relax.

So long as you have the fire responsibly, ideally, so that there is no sign that there was a fire there at all and there is no waste left, there's nothing wrong with this IMO. We've had fire for millenia; it's not like it is somehow 'unnatural', new or polluting on an industrial scale. When you are out bike camping, if you live in the west, you are almost certainly doing less environmental damage by just riding your bike and burning litter than you would be in your normal day to day life.

My point is that some of the stuff I have left over from MRE's and other packaging have foil backings which don't necessarily incinerate in total. That being said I've done my share of stealth camping and camping in NF areas, so I just don't feel like it's the right thing (for me) to leave stuff (anything) behind. This is just a personal choice and I pack out what I pack in IF it can't be burned. And yes, I do burn some of the stuff.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:01 AM   #620
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How do you like the coffee press? And, if you would care to comment on how you use it (how's it work)? I assume you put grounds in the water, boil and then press them to the bottom right?
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:36 PM   #621
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How do you like the coffee press? And, if you would care to comment on how you use it (how's it work)? I assume you put grounds in the water, boil and then press them to the bottom right?
Right.
The press is decent. I use it half the time; the other half for instant coffee.

Overview without using the press: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0qDmHA1zHI


Jump to 2:20 to see the coffee press: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKTYIeXddck
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:00 PM   #622
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I put the coffee in the bottom and stir as normal for a French Press, but I have found that if I use a regular drip filter around the jetboil filter mine works a lot better. You have to press slowly due to the extra filtration and it is worth it to me not to get the sludge that can leak by the press without the filter. If I don't carry the Aeropress I can always shove a few filters in the jetboil for use.

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Old 11-26-2010, 02:01 PM   #623
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FWIW, I don't like the coffee press for grounds. The pot and the press are a PITA to clean and the grounds make a mess. I have started using Folgers (NOT your fufu latte double mocha blah blah blah stuff) coffee disc packets. Aint the best coffee but it gets me going, no mess, and easy to carry. Pretty cheap too at Wally World.
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:05 PM   #624
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I agree about the mess. If there is no running water nearby I just use VIA or some cold brew concentrate.

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FWIW, I don't like the coffee press for grounds. The pot and the press are a PITA to clean and the grounds make a mess. I have started using Folgers (NOT your fufu latte double mocha blah blah blah stuff) coffee disc packets. Aint the best coffee but it gets me going, no mess, and easy to carry. Pretty cheap too at Wally World.
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Old 11-26-2010, 04:01 PM   #625
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The extra filter seems a good idea. On a recent camp out at Toad Suck, Arkansas I used the Starbucks Via instant coffee for the first time. Although, pricey, $3.00 for three small but very tasty packets of coffee. For me, good coffee is a requirement. The meal can be mediocre but the coffee is what makes the meal for me.
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:02 PM   #626
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Espresso is easy using a Bialetti Moka Express.



It makes great coffee...



It's tough to beat Ramen Noodles, a can of chicken and some seasoning...



Breakfast is usually an Odwalla Bar (or similar), a piece of fruit and espresso.

Cooking for one is tougher than cooking for two (a pack of Ramen Noodles is two servings for instance).

YMMV.
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:16 PM   #627
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Have added a small 8" wok to my kit. Great for cooking many things.



Kung Pao chicken and fried rice with chicken and water chestnuts.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:30 PM   #628
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Have added a small 8" wok to my kit. Great for cooking many things.



Kung Pao chicken and fried rice with chicken and water chestnuts.
Keith, one of these days we have got to plan a get together....
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:34 PM   #629
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My point is that some of the stuff I have left over from MRE's and other packaging have foil backings which don't necessarily incinerate in total. That being said I've done my share of stealth camping and camping in NF areas, so I just don't feel like it's the right thing (for me) to leave stuff (anything) behind. This is just a personal choice and I pack out what I pack in IF it can't be burned. And yes, I do burn some of the stuff.
We always pack out our non-burnables when in primitive areas. It's easy enough to do and the next group in has a nice, clean area. I can't count how many campsites my buddies and I have cleaned up along the way. Extra garbage bags take up no room on the bike and can be easily disposed of at the next gas stop.

I pack along an entrenching tool (surplus E. German are the best, IMO), to dig a proper fire pit, as well as to secure it when leaving the camp the next morning. The thing works good for pounding tent stakes, latrine duty and minor leveling of tent pitch areas, too.

Always figured we ADV riders think and act like avid backpackers when in primitive areas, (and buy the same kind of gear in many cases).
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:57 PM   #630
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Have added a small 8" wok to my kit. Great for cooking many things.



Kung Pao chicken and fried rice with chicken and water chestnuts.
Ken;
Do you have any pics of your new wok? and showing how its packed?

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ps, walked right past your camp spot at the rally in Redmond didn't even see ya
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