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Old 04-06-2009, 11:10 PM   #1531
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Lower, pick a number between 820 and 825

When you sit down and add up all the things it doesn't surprise me of the total weight .
For starters, and this is only estimates, bike 250/350kg's, sidecar chassis and body 100/150kgs, 2 people 150/250kg's. Thats 500/750 kgs, unloaded.
In Ray's P case he was carring 70lts of fuel, 40lts of water, electric fridge full of food, twin batteries,camping gear, (tent, sleeping bags, air mats etc), chairs table, gas stove and gas bottle, cooking gear etc, tools, spares etc.
Soon adds up.

Interesting observation with my Tuck Truck, fuel consumption varys little whether it is fully loaded or running on empty. 12/13 kpl on bitumen, 14/15 kpl on the dirt.

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I came up with the figure pretty quickly. Maybe I overestimated the biological mass


I reckon one reason why you use more fuel on the dirt, Chris, is because the rear tyre is travelling a lot further than the front!

I'm reding 'the Len Beadell Collection'. 6 books in a boxed set. I saw three books loose & told my wife that they were my xmas present. I don't know where she found the set.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:21 PM   #1532
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Ohh really? Do tell.......
You'll just have to wait and see. Um, so will I.

Minimalistic body, hopefully in a style & shape to 'match' the fairing of the Tiger. Single seat plus a high perch. Flat underneath. Still discussing whether a 25l fuel tank goes in or not. Reager (?) spring /damper is likely. 17" wheel, again . Storage box(es) behind the seat - maybe removable.

I decided to stay with the Tiger as it is a known quantity & all the work has already been done for the bike. If I had a wish list for the Tiger - 3 into 1 & the ignition/carbs/cams from a 900 Sprint - that'd give me an extra 15 hp.

I'd really like to find a 15" M&S tyre but it seems like no one makes them unless they are 215mm wide. Not for Australia anyway. Go one, someone mention Continental WinterContact.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:40 PM   #1533
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I'd really like to find a 15" M&S tyre but it seems like no one makes them unless they are 215mm wide. Not for Australia anyway. Go one, someone mention Continental WinterContact.
They don't sell Smarts down under? We can get plenty of small width 15" M&S tyres overhere from several marques (135/155/175 aso)

I'm running a Vredestein 175/60/15 all season tyre (quatrac2) at the rear, but there are also several specific wintertyres available
[edit] just found a piccie:

Some marques that just come up apart from the Conti: Vredestein, Dunlop, Pirelli, GoodYear, Fulda
They all come up with wintertyres for my bike
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:44 PM   #1534
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:51 PM   #1535
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They don't sell Smarts down under? We can get plenty of small width 15" M&S tyres overhere from several marques (135/155/175 aso)

I'm running a Vredestein 175/60/15 all season tyre (quatrac2) at the rear, but there are also several specific wintertyres available
Some marques that just come up apart from the Conti: Vredestein, Dunlop, Pirelli, GoodYear, Fulda
They all come up with wintertyres for my bike
I reckon the tyre importers don't worry about bringing them in. The market for M&S tyres is pretty much restricted to 4wd and trucks. If your in the snow here, you have to carry/use chains.

I suppose I need to find an importer, rather than a retailer. Retailers around here just give me a blank look when I explain what I'm after.

Bear in mind I don't necessarily want to ride in the snow, but sometimes the car tyre just doesn't hack it. The one I've got on now is also too light construction - my mistake.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:57 PM   #1536
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On my old airhead I ran/ will run M&S all the time (also in summer). I get the feeling that they have a bit better grip on tarmac also because of the softer compound (which doesn't help for the mileage of course)

I buy all my tyres through the internet, isn't there such a thing possible over there?

Are we getting off-topic and should we open a specific hack/tyre thread?
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:21 AM   #1537
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The tyres they use on the formula Vs here have a fairly aggressive tread and are very sticky
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:42 AM   #1538
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I reckon the tyre importers don't worry about bringing them in. The market for M&S tyres is pretty much restricted to 4wd and trucks. If your in the snow here, you have to carry/use chains.

I suppose I need to find an importer, rather than a retailer. Retailers around here just give me a blank look when I explain what I'm after.

Bear in mind I don't necessarily want to ride in the snow, but sometimes the car tyre just doesn't hack it. The one I've got on now is also too light construction - my mistake.
Hi SCray. I have been doing some looking at some wreckers here . I found out the older Mazda vans run 4"x 15" four stud front rims with 165 6 ply light truck tires. I picked up 4 rims and 4 near new tires for $50.oo Did a trial fit on the GSA tonight fits no problems . Now i Just have to get the adapter made.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:11 AM   #1539
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Hi SCray. I have been doing some looking at some wreckers here . I found out the older Mazda vans run 4"x 15" four stud front rims with 165 6 ply light truck tires. I picked up 4 rims and 4 near new tires for $50.oo Did a trial fit on the GSA tonight fits no problems . Now i Just have to get the adapter made.
If I may ask, what year vehicle did the rims come off of?
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:40 PM   #1540
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They don't sell Smarts down under? We can get plenty of small width 15" M&S tyres overhere from several marques (135/155/175 aso)

I'm running a Vredestein 175/60/15 all season tyre (quatrac2) at the rear, but there are also several specific wintertyres available
[edit] just found a piccie:

Some marques that just come up apart from the Conti: Vredestein, Dunlop, Pirelli, GoodYear, Fulda
They all come up with wintertyres for my bike
So where is the photo of the rest of the outfit??? That looks very much like a Toyota wheel, but only 15".
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:26 PM   #1541
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So where is the photo of the rest of the outfit??? That looks very much like a Toyota wheel, but only 15".
I'm sure I posted some pics already in this thread, but I haven't got a clue on which page , so:





The wheel comes off a Rover MG btw. It's a 6Jx15"
On similar outfits (R1100R and R1150R) that I built for friends last year, I used Smart 15"wheels. Disadvantage: only three bolts. Advantage: offset of only 2mm, which means the adapter can be much shorter (54 mm opposite to 110 mm for the above)
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:27 AM   #1542
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If I may ask, what year vehicle did the rims come off of?
The Mazda is a 1981 / 1982 Van. I think . I can go back to the wrecker and find out for sure if you like.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:31 AM   #1543
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Pic above: Smart 4" wide rims I use on my 1150 GS. The wintertire on the left (Conti Wintercontact) I use the most, all year round on tarmac (without the snowchain).
The one on the right is for off-road use.

Other off-road tires:

Akkerslipper 185/65R15, here on a K100 outfit:



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Old 04-08-2009, 06:39 AM   #1544
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