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Old 04-15-2009, 06:52 AM   #1576
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Ace, the guy is asking 15,500 Euro’s for this 1999 Bike. The outfit was built in 2006. Not cheap.

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$20,400USD. Lots of bucks for an 1100 rig, but sure looks nice.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:31 AM   #1577
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$20,400USD. Lots of bucks for an 1100 rig, but sure looks nice.
Well, I agree it’s pretty expensive. But all is relative. This morning I paid (converted) 6.78 USD for a gallon of 95 RON (EUR 1.359 per liter) and a new Ural Wjuga will cost close to 18,000 USD over here. (9,411 EURO Nett + VAT + Luxury tax).


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Old 04-15-2009, 07:35 AM   #1578
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G/day all, back with a few more Oz outfits.

A broken frame, miles from anywhere. No big deal. A spot of welding and we are away

Great pics Chris. Can you give us some more info on the emergency welding? Only 24 Volts eh?


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Old 04-15-2009, 09:50 AM   #1579
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Great pics Chris. Can you give us some more info on the emergency welding? Only 24 Volts eh?


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+1 - that looks like a mandatory item for adventure hacks!
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:05 AM   #1580
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$20,400USD. Lots of bucks for an 1100 rig, but sure looks nice.

That's about $27000 AUD (this week). A new Ural is somewhere around $18000.

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Old 04-16-2009, 06:40 AM   #1581
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:41 PM   #1582
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Great pics Chris. Can you give us some more info on the emergency welding? Only 24 Volts eh?


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hoi Richard
triggered by this picture i did some research on outback welding (and having a K75 outfit). battery welding was new to me and seemed a good resque method. 24 volts is not to much, you realy want 36 volts or 3 batteries. when you're an experienced welder it's possible with 24 volts but hard to keep a good arc. judging from the weld on this K100, this was an experienced welder
the technics: 3 large batteries in series with stout wires and vice clamps, two jumper cables and a piece of eye protection. 1/8 or 3,25mm rods will do the job. http://www.lcool.org/technical/80_se...y_welding.html

now it's just a case of traveling with 2 other BMW's or Guzzi's in case your frame would break
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:11 PM   #1583
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Outdoor welding - very interesting!!!!!

Thanks for posting!

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Old 04-16-2009, 01:13 PM   #1584
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hoi Richard
triggered by this picture i did some research on outback welding (and having a K75 outfit). battery welding was new to me and seemed a good resque method. 24 volts is not to much, you realy want 36 volts or 3 batteries. when you're an experienced welder it's possible with 24 volts but hard to keep a good arc. judging from the weld on this K100, this was an experienced welder
the technics: 3 large batteries in series with stout wires and vice clamps, two jumper cables and a piece of eye protection. 1/8 or 3,25mm rods will do the job. http://www.lcool.org/technical/80_se...y_welding.html

now it's just a case of traveling with 2 other BMW's or Guzzi's in case your frame would break
Hey Arjan, nice to see you here. Although more Dutchies will scare the hell out of some people.

Yep, unknown with DC welding what so ever, I only knew, what you just now wrote here above. I find it intriging as well. Never done it.

My question was more about the picture shown by Chris. Can you see where the + or – goes on the frame. I don’t . (in DC welding the plus should go on the frame in stead of the negative pole, so I understood.)

Hopefully Chris will explain something more about this “field practice”. Would be great. I also agree, the person in the pic must be a experienced welder getting the arch right with only 24 Volts.

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Old 04-16-2009, 02:56 PM   #1585
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...My question was more about the picture shown by Chris. Can you see where the + or – goes on the frame. I don’t . (in DC welding the plus should go on the frame in stead of the negative pole, so I understood.) ....Richard-NL
As far as I can tell, the remark in the 4wd-article is incorrect. Norm for DC-rod (normal rods) welding is positive to the rod. This gives an arc that enters deeper into the material. They probably confuse it with DC-tig welding,where indeed the tungsten rod is wired negative, or else all heat would go into the torch.
It's a well-known trick though (for instance for first layers in pipes and thin material) to wire the rod to negative to have more control of the bath (colder)
As for the 24V. The biggest problem is the ignition of the arc. Rutile rods ignite at a lower voltage than their basoic (is that the right word in English?) counterparts, who usually need at least 40+ V to ignite properly.

I'm sure I'm gonna try it one day and see if and how it works, but am for the moment amazed with the quality of the weld in the picture. Hats off for this emergency rescue
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Old 04-17-2009, 06:00 AM   #1586
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The outdoor welding post is very interesting. I like people doing their own work.
One of these guys made this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovcEg1yiLDs

Something different to outdoorwelding, but difficult. It took three years until it works without problems.


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Old 04-17-2009, 06:29 AM   #1587
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Very cool.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:18 PM   #1588
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:07 PM   #1589
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Hey Arjan, nice to see you here. Although more Dutchies will scare the hell out of some people.



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i'm not so bad, just don't moan to much about TUV to meI think the Germans like to be mothered with rules and don't know what to do without them

this weekend i spoke to a fellow sidecarrist who knows something about welding.
the trick is in the rutile electrodes as Erik mentioned, hello Erik
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:02 PM   #1590
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A broken frame, miles from anywhere. No big deal.
A spot of welding and we are away

You have to tell us about this jumper cable welding! What do you use for an electrode, a spare spoke?!?
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