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Old 04-29-2014, 07:54 PM   #1
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Dakar Racing Bikes?

Hey,

Not sure if this is the right thread but it seems pretty spot on.

I am wanting to do rallys and one day do the Dakar if I don't suck to much. I know they all race the 450cc bikes that are built for racing. The problem is is that I am looking for a bike that is street legal, and can still race amaturely fairly well. I could simply convert a bike or what not but since Alberta sucks, I cannot do that, so dual sports are the only way. I only know about the bikes made from the major company's such as Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, etc. Are there any smaller companies you would suggest that would meet my needs? Or am I stuck.

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Old 04-29-2014, 08:02 PM   #2
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Here's an option

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....55&postcount=5
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:45 PM   #3
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Although it being in the UK and you being in Canada may be problematic, here's Jenny Morgan's 2011 Dakar bike. She returned it to "normal" configuration to make it more affordable but likely has all those Dakar bits & pieces tucked away. Jen's enroute to the Hellas Rally - Lepanto on the new LC4-50 now so may be a tad busy for the next couple of weeks.

Linky > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=972373

I'll see if I can find the earlier thread which had pics & specs of it in full-race trim.

Edit: I was mistaken about Jen having the rally bits tucked away, but pics of the WR in rally trim are in this thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...616099&page=58
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:50 AM   #4
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Buy a ktm 690 Enduro (street legal in Alberta), then buy a rally kit from Rally Raid UK
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:11 AM   #5
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buy a ktm 690 enduro (street legal in alberta), then buy a rally kit from rally raid uk
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:47 AM   #6
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Even though I agree with the above post also, another option.
You can get a KTM 450exc they are street legal in Canada, for that matter any size exc is road legal. Some times you can get away with an xcw and put lights and make it pass, but better to go road legal from the factory. The only reason to go KTM is because it is the best. Ok just messing with ya on that point, but they are great bikes. There is a great dealer network and info on the bikes. Also parts are easy to come by, like rally farings etc. I have a 500 exc and love it off road and handles the tarmac stuff well enough. As much as I like the 690 I would prefer a smaller bike for off-roading. They have made a kit to make the 690 into a 450 for the Dakar this year. So that might be a route for you also great bike with long service intervals. But it is 50lbs more then a stock 450, so that will get a bit tiring off roading. Lots of options out there if you look around. Biggest problem being you have a hard time porting a bike from the states or over sea where the most Dakar bikes are.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:51 AM   #7
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You certainly came to the right place.

Check out the Dakar, Tuareg, Hellas and other Rally threads for Bikes being raced and converted.
Or bit closer to you, the US based Rallies.
And most importantly check the Navi Tower Thread to see what the other inmates did to their bikes.
Once you read all that, compared pictures and raced a few rallies you will know exactly what you want and what is possible.

Most of the inmates have converted dual sport or hard enduro bikes converted.
There is real quality stuff around to do this today. Just a few years back this was all super special custom stuff and what has survived is proven and well worth its money.

And as a bonus most of the vendors are happy to help answering your questions.

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Old 04-30-2014, 06:07 AM   #8
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As Happe said welcome, but to spending money lol.
A cheap way to get started is a rally light faring from HDB.
http://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_...TM_Rallye_Lite
I would not go all in and spend the big bucks on a full faring. Most of the rallies in Canada or the US do not need it. Might need a bigger fuel tank though for some of them.
Have fun reading some great info in here if you look for it.
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Old 04-30-2014, 08:37 AM   #9
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Hi,
if you came in the north of Italy you can see this bike.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=733

We are a team (OROBICA RAID srl) that race at Dakar with bikes, cars and trucks.
If you would buy one interesting bike this is really good. Ready to race, with a big (very big) stock of spare parts.
If you prefer we can rent this bike. we can offer you assistance during the race. We can arrange for everythings about your race.

Let me know..
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:38 AM   #10
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I am fairly sure the almost brand new ktm 450rr ridden by Jeff Quade for 4 days of '14 Dakar (before breaking his arm) is in Southern California and likely for sale.
Maybe send a PM to the facebook page of "El Martillo Racing To Dakar"
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:03 PM   #11
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Even though I agree with the above post also, another option.
You can get a KTM 450exc they are street legal in Canada, for that matter any size exc is road legal. Some times you can get away with an xcw and put lights and make it pass, but better to go road legal from the factory. The only reason to go KTM is because it is the best. Ok just messing with ya on that point, but they are great bikes. There is a great dealer network and info on the bikes. Also parts are easy to come by, like rally farings etc. I have a 500 exc and love it off road and handles the tarmac stuff well enough. As much as I like the 690 I would prefer a smaller bike for off-roading. They have made a kit to make the 690 into a 450 for the Dakar this year. So that might be a route for you also great bike with long service intervals. But it is 50lbs more then a stock 450, so that will get a bit tiring off roading. Lots of options out there if you look around. Biggest problem being you have a hard time porting a bike from the states or over sea where the most Dakar bikes are.
Are EXC's serial numbers registered as a Street legal? If not then Alberta won't accept it.
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:23 PM   #12
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I believe all EXC's are street legal in Canada.
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:24 PM   #13
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I believe all EXC's are street legal in Canada.
Not 525's but 450,530 and 500's are
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:38 PM   #14
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The 450 limit is primarily for Dakar. Plus, the bike you buy now should be well hammered before you are ready for Dakar, so they are separate bikes most likely.

For Canada, I'd recommend a plated 500EXC with no rally kit at all, just the nav gear. If you did want to race that same bike, it will need a top end by then anyway. So just put a 450 jug on it.

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Old 05-01-2014, 02:28 AM   #15
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I am fairly sure the almost brand new ktm 450rr ridden by Jeff Quade for 4 days of '14 Dakar (before breaking his arm) is in Southern California and likely for sale.
Maybe send a PM to the facebook page of "El Martillo Racing To Dakar"
tnk you so much. I'll try!
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