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Old 08-09-2014, 07:26 PM   #1
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Stripped Exhaust Threads Advice

Just got a new to me R100RS. Tried to remove the exhausts and the left nut galled and stripped out the threads on the head. The other side looks to have been repaired once upon o a time. So, I need to repair or replace both heads. What 's the advice? Are they repairable or should I just lok for new heads?

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Old 08-09-2014, 07:34 PM   #2
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Peter Bombar has a nice process. Replaces the threads with a steel sleeve.

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:34 PM   #3
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The one previously repaired looks ok - why replace it?

There are a couple options (in my book) for the mushed threads. I've recently heard that it's possible, using a thread file, to bring the threads back to new condition. Never tried it myself, but it's easy and cheap enough, just purchase a thread file.

The other solution is to send it to Paul Sturges in Newberg Oregon. It'll look brand new (functionally as well) when returned and shipping both ways will likely be a third the total cost.
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:42 AM   #4
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:55 AM   #5
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[QUOTE=Wirespokes;24811721]The one previously repaired looks ok - why replace it?
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Picture looks better than it is. Only about 3 threads are in place, the rest are junk. I think the damage is too extensive for filing.

Paul Sturges to the rescue! Thanks for the lead. This looks like the best solution for a restoration.
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I don't know who does it around here but when I was with the BMW dealer in Canada, we used to have the threaded area built up with weld then have new threads turned back on. It looked quite good and wasn't very obvious. The real trick is to stop trying to force off the nut, as soon as it starts to bind STOP and split the nut. This will save the threads at only the cost of a new nut. When the threads get stripped off by the nut galling, both the threads and the nut will need to be replaced. Yes, when you look inside the nut the threads will look ok but when you try to "work" the nut onto the new threads, there's a good chance you will now trash the new threads.
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Old 08-10-2014, 08:15 AM   #7
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What condition are the valve guides ,valves and seats? No sense sending them out unless the rest are ok. Or have them reworked and repaired at the same time.
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Old 08-10-2014, 08:16 AM   #8
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[QUOTE=Pokie;24813582]I don't know who does it around here ...QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm going to just pack em up and send em to Oregon. By the time I find someone here in CO, the cost and time will probably be about the same, and I'd rather give them to someone who has done it before.

When the nut stopped moving easily after the first turn, I suspected galling, but the bike's old, so I thought, maybe, it was just tight. Wrong, again.
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Old 08-10-2014, 08:19 AM   #9
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What condition are the valve guides ,valves and seats? No sense sending them out unless the rest are ok. Or have them reworked and repaired at the same time.
They 'look' fine, but this is going to be a frame off resto, so I will have them completely done over while the threads are repaired. Hopefully, Sturges can do the whole enchilada. I'll do the rings and check the barrels for wear while I'm at it.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:17 AM   #10
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Carl..i.e. flying teapot does the repairs too.

http://www.flyingtpot.com/main.htm

the thread file works good for slightly boogered threads
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:26 PM   #11
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I bought a set of what Boxa Bits posted. Pretty cool and eliminates the weapon sized spanner in your saddle bag.
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #12
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And also:

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to give plenty of choices for future Searchers.

The big secret? yearly, back the nuts off, clean the threads with a brass-bristle brush and reassemble with plenty of anti-seize.

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+1. They work great, I've had them on my GS since 2008...
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...when I was with the BMW dealer in Canada, we used to have the threaded area built up with weld then have new threads turned back on. It looked quite good and wasn't very obvious.
That's how Paul does it - cuts off the junk threads, welds up the area, then cuts new threads in the lathe. Like I said, you won't be able to tell it was ever repaired.

As for the previously repaired head, he can fix that too. And yes, he replaces guides and seats if needed, as well as fin repair. He's been doing this for 35 years. I hate to mention his name because I don't want him so swamped he can't get to my stuff reasonably quick!
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:53 PM   #15
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