|03-07-2014, 06:21 AM||#1|
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Canada eh?
Buying a bike out of country...your experience
I wasn't sure where to put this, so I just stuck it here. There scenario...I am looking seriously at a bike in MO but am going to ship it to The border up NY way where I will import it across.
Since the paperwork has to be at the border 72 hours before I import it, paperwork meaning the original title and bill of sale,means I have to take a leap of faith and pay for the bike in full before the seller will release those documents.
Now I HAVE done that before,with success, luckily enough, but I am not sure I would be willing to do that again. I have communicated many times with the seller via email,he did provide his phone number when I asked and he did fess up that the bike had been dropped on both sides when I specifically asked about it. Sent pics of damage too.
Does anybody have any suggestions or stories of how they handled a long distance,sight unseen bike purchase? Where you don't have anybody to act in your favor at the point of sale.
I have put the bike up for shipping bids on Uship.
|03-07-2014, 11:47 AM||#2|
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON
The are a myriad of stories of successful sight-unseen cross border purchases, and a myriad of stories of sight-unseen cross border purchases gone horribly wrong. There are probably more successful transactions than bad transactions, but enough bad transactions to raise the "buyer beware" flag.
I've bought two vehicles and one motorcycle in the US and imported them to Canada. To reduce risks, I've bought them all from dealers who are familiar with the process. The process is simple as long as you complete all the steps in the right order and at the right time. I bought a new Outback last February. I got home from picking it up in NY state at 9 pm on a Thursday evening and had Ontario plates on it by noon the next day.
By the way, check with the border crossing you're planning on using about how they define "72 hrs" because I found out at the Champlain crossing going into Quebec they measure "72 hrs" as "touching three days". So he said if you have the title at the border on a Tuesday, you can pass on through on a Thursday. And they are a 24 hr crossing there, so "72 hrs" really means "a little over 24 hrs". I wouldn't assume this is the case everywhere though.
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|03-08-2014, 03:08 AM||#3|
Joined: Dec 2009
Bought my bike off of ebay. Very easy transaction. Canadian dealers love to spread fear of US purchases as this hits them in the pocket book.
- only buy from a reputible dealer and not a private sale if you are doing a remote purchase
- wire the money, it will cost about $30 in bank fees. You can negotiate on the exchange rate. Banks charge a lower exchange rate than Western Union or Credit Card Companies. Money will take several days to transfer.
- Make sure you get a fax or scan of the title. This will need to be sent to the US customs office at least 72 hours before the bike leaves the US. This is so you can get a exit permit for the bike that proves it was not stolen. Without this you cannot get it into Canada. Select the US customs office at the planned border crossing. You will need to present original title at US customs office when you stop there to get your exit permit.
- On entry to Canada at customs office pay GST/PST and present original title, bill of sale and get import form. Save proof of payment for taxes and other paperwork.
- Go online to RIV (Registrar of Imported Vehicals) site ( http://www.riv.ca ) and pay $250 import fee with credit card and enter info form import form you got from Canada customs when you paid the taxes. They will email you a form to take to Canadian Tire for RIV inspection.
- The RIV inspection is the clerk at CT filling out a form that lists things like axel weight, gross vehical weight, etc and takes all of 2 min. The same form is used for boats, campers, cars and motorcycles
- list the list of recalls on the RIV form as the manufactures web site address, as they all list them there. You don't need a letter from the manufacturer listing this info
- Go to provincial office and register vehicle as normal
- for transport use www.uship.com and provide a large time window for shipment to get lower rates. Shipping to the US side of the border is cheapest. Rent a $30 UHaul motorcycle trailer and go to US side of border to pick up bike and bring it back.
- Insure bike before shipment as most shippers do not have insurance.
- A shipper bringing the bike across the border will charge a lot more for it due to extra paperwork involved. Try to find a shipper who will also act as your customs broker. If they do they will need a photocopy of your drivers license and a letter from you stating they can sign on your behalf. Other option is to ship to US border town and pick bike up there.
- Try to buy a bike with a digital speedo. These flick from km to miles with the flick of a switch, other wise you will need to put a sticker on your speedo dial if it does not have KM.
I had a positive experience and will do this again will future bike and car purchases.
outsidein screwed with this post 03-08-2014 at 03:16 AM
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