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Old 12-12-2009, 10:08 AM   #361
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As much as I'd like to try the TourMaster Synergy jacket, after reading through this entire thread, I think I will go with a First Gear heated jacket liner instead. While some have experienced no issues with the TourMaster it seems that many more have been frustrated with repeated heat controller failures. Thanks to all for posting your experiences.
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:52 PM   #362
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I had the grommet ripping out probelm after only a few days of riding last year. (as did another guy at the K1100 forum.) I sent it back and got a warranty replacment. Now I don't strap the ocntroler to my leg, I just let it hang free so it won't get stressed.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:46 AM   #363
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I swing it up and clip it on my pocket.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:15 PM   #364
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Just ordered a Medium from www.tonker.com final price with discount code "bab" and free shipping was $153.89.

Medium was confirmed the live person there.
(5-10, 180lbs, large t-shirt, 42 jacket/filight suit, medium "polo" shirt)
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:16 PM   #365
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I had the grommet ripping out probelm after only a few days of riding last year. (as did another guy at the K1100 forum.) I sent it back and got a warranty replacment. Now I don't strap the ocntroler to my leg, I just let it hang free so it won't get stressed.
I do the same, just let the controller dangle. In the two years or so I've had the electric stuff, I've had two controller go bad but no torn or ripped wiring.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:20 PM   #366
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Got an order code?
Tonker seems to be out of business.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:23 PM   #367
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This was mentioned earlier but check this out.



Tour Master Heat-troller Adapter
$9.95
Tour Copier Adapter When you get tired of either replacing the tourmaster controller when it fails or when you want a reliable, honestly designed controller, this adapter will allow you to use our heat-troller with the tourmaster gear Just connects where the failed controller plugs in Once connected you can plug a heat-troller or controller between the battery harness and the clothing just like normal

For those who don't want to or can't mod their by themselves. I have dual permanent mount trollers on one of my bikes, thinking of wiring in the TM stuff to a bike that has no trollers and using this for when on the other bike.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:47 PM   #368
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As Dusty Boots found out, with the wires jumped (or this adaptor) and without a heatroller there is more than just the jacket's elements being on high. I would think this adaptor is putting the jacket at risk of burning out if someone thinks they can just plug it in straight. Does this adaptor come with a warning?
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:56 PM   #369
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As Dusty Boots found out, with the wires jumped (or this adaptor) and without a heatroller there is more than just the jacket's elements being on high. I would think this adaptor is putting the jacket at risk of burning out if someone thinks they can just plug it in straight. Does this adaptor come with a warning?
It's to be used with their troller.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:39 AM   #370
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It's to be used with their troller.
An email to them confirms no damage to the jacket without their `troller.

Me..
"So, you think it's safe to run that (Synergy) jacket with your adaptor and no Heat-Troller....if someone wanted a backup device for the ever failing Tourmaster controller?"

Mike Coan from Warmnsafe.. "Yes as long as you know the maximum heat the jacket will make is ok for you."


Looks like a good emergency item to be kept in the pocket in case the stock controller fails on a trip. Remember it's on HIGH and very hot.
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:20 PM   #371
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OK, I need gloves...

Went for a New Years Day ride today in the teens and my heated grips with handle bar mitts just won't do anymore! I've the Synergy vest and now I need heated gloves, but not Tourmaster ones.

So, if I go with say Warm & Safe gloves I need a dual heat troller and an adapter to use the Synergy vest???? With the dual troller I can control the heat levels on both the vest and glove interdependently of each other, correct?

Thinking of going with the dual remote one. As for the gloves, I especially want to heat the thumbs! Any recommendations on gloves for this setup?
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:39 PM   #372
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Went for a New Years Day ride today in the teens and my heated grips with handle bar mitts just won't do anymore! I've the Synergy vest and now I need heated gloves, but not Tourmaster ones.

So, if I go with say Warm & Safe gloves I need a dual heat troller and an adapter to use the Synergy vest???? With the dual troller I can control the heat levels on both the vest and glove interdependently of each other, correct?

Thinking of going with the dual remote one. As for the gloves, I especially want to heat the thumbs! Any recommendations on gloves for this setup?
To use the troller on the tourmaster you need to short out the 4 wires in the main plug. There is a pic in this thread showing how. Or just order the plug from WnS. I'd go with the WnS carbon gloves personally as they seem to be the only heated gloves that are useful even without plugging them in and they have armour and offer pretty good dexterity.
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:48 AM   #373
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Synergy jacket liner update: It doesn't usually get cold enough for local riding to need to use electric gear but I just used my Synergy liner for a four day ride up the coast. On day 4, maybe an hour from my house, my contoller started crapping out and would only stay on for a few minutes and then drop out. I'd guess I've only used the jacket 12-15 times before the controller crapped out.

A buddy of mine gave me his Synergy controller when he switched to a Heat Troller so I have a backup unit but I'd really like to have something more reliable. So I ordered the TM plug thing from Warm & Safe and a Powerlet controller from Eastern Beaver. (The reason I got the Powerlet controller instead of the Heat Troller is that the Powerlet controller has a lifetime warranty.)

An inexpensive but affordable backup with some control would be to get the Warm & Safe TM plug and a simple but cheap coax on/off switch.

(Disclaimer: Jim at Eastern Beaver is a friend of mine but I'd buy from him even if he weren't.)
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:22 PM   #374
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(The reason I got the Powerlet controller instead of the Heat Troller is that the Powerlet controller has a lifetime warranty.)
Doesn't the heat troller also have a lifetime warranty? I thought all his stuff had a lifetime warranty on the electronics and wiring? If not however, it is good to know.

I'm guessing it's a rebadged warm n safe troller and not a chinese copy like the gerbings unit?
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:53 PM   #375
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Warm & Safe has a 3 year warranty on their heat trollers. Lifetime warranty on the jacket liner wiring.
I'm not sure if Powerlet increased the their warranty on the heat troller, I'd be surprised if it's lifetime since it's made by warm & safe.






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Doesn't the heat troller also have a lifetime warranty? I thought all his stuff had a lifetime warranty on the electronics and wiring? If not however, it is good to know.

I'm guessing it's a rebadged warm n safe troller and not a chinese copy like the gerbings unit?
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