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Old 03-20-2008, 06:10 AM   #646
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Back before the TM and RM 125s came out, Suzuki offered Hop-up kits that had bigger carbs, cylinders with webbed exhaust ports, higher compression head, pistons with thinner or fewer rings and an expansion chamber. This is a bike I put together for U.S. Suzuki then Service Manager A.F. "Bud" Willson. It was a 1972 TS125. Not sure if he ever rode it, but it kept me out of trouble (and the secretarial pool/my happy hunting ground) for a few days.
There is a lot of great information in this thread!

Valleyrider, how did you happen to get your foot in the door to work for Suzuki?
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:31 AM   #647
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There is a lot of great information in this thread!

Valleyrider, how did you happen to get your foot in the door to work for Suzuki?
Hey CS, Long story.... But I grew up in So Cal. Raced for a Suzuki dealer and had a co-workerat the dealer that was hired by Suzuki. He was moved to another department and I applied for his position (testrider/service tech). Got the job. Just a matter of being in the right place at the right time.....
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:44 PM   #648
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Bump.
This thread needs to stay on page 1.

Keep it coming folks!
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:10 AM   #649
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Trials history

Maybe time for something a little different...as trials is "dirt" too!
Some pics from the notes of trials great Sammy Miller, responsible for develping some of the most famous trials bikes out there from the
original Ariel GOV 132 to the "new" generation of Bultaco two strokes, then the Honda fourstrokes of the 1970's and beyond...

Big difference not just in bikes but in riding gear here as compared to today...with (thankfully) no brightly-coloured Spandex body suites!

















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Old 03-22-2008, 06:37 AM   #650
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Well I have some questions.

I was reading this article last week (http://mxworksbike.com/1976_125_Nationals_part_1.htm) and there are several references to a rider's works bike being "claimed" by another rider? I'm guessing this was some kind of rule at the time (maybe it still is), but I'm just having a hard time undertanding it; how that came to be and why?
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:48 AM   #651
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Maybe time for something a little different...as trials is "dirt" too!
Some pics from the notes of trials great Sammy Miller, responsible for develping some of the most famous trials bikes out there from the
original Ariel GOV 132 to the "new" generation of Bultaco two strokes, then the Honda fourstrokes of the 1970's and beyond...

Big difference not just in bikes but in riding gear here as compared to today...with (thankfully) no brightly-coloured Spandex body suites!
Hard to believe those were trials bikes!
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:52 AM   #652
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Well I have some questions.

I was reading this article last week (http://mxworksbike.com/1976_125_Nationals_part_1.htm) and there are several references to a rider's works bike being "claimed" by another rider? I'm guessing this was some kind of rule at the time (maybe it still is), but I'm just having a hard time undertanding it; how that came to be and why?
in short. after a race within one hour anyone could claim another bike at a fixed price. but he had to file a claim and other riders could counter claim. then it went into pulling a number out of a hat.

waiting 55 minutes could make it interesting.

but it gave private guys the chance to grab a very one of a kind factory racer fronm the factory and it almost happened once or twice. I think the whole story was in there about Mickey Boone? claiming Hannahs water cooled 125?
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:08 AM   #653
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Some of the big AMA flat track races were claiming races, still going on in horse racing.
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Old 03-22-2008, 08:36 AM   #654
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Hard to believe those were trials bikes!
Yep. Like MX bikes they have gone from street bikes without lights to the stunt machine status of today.

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Old 03-23-2008, 07:22 AM   #655
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Only one US Trials Champion (1979 - Bernie Schreiber) from 1964 to 2007!? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ials_champions. Not sure why it's not bigger in the US than it is, very interesting branch of the dirt bike family.

I don't think I'd like to even try and walk across this section!
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:41 AM   #656
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Also a KT250 trials bike in the background that looks pretty clean. Another uncommon model from back when every Japanese manufacturer was making them.
Interesting to see the difference between Kawasaki's KX250 and KT250 below, same year (1975). Very little travel on the KT! Was the KT only offered in the US in 1976? Also curious what the letter "A" denotes (KT250A) for example?



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Old 03-23-2008, 08:50 AM   #657
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happy easter to everyone who ever got spit off a dirt bike.

from the belgian (I think) website I listed earlier. just an endless string of stunning images.



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Old 03-23-2008, 05:15 PM   #658
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[QUOTE=ChopSuey]Interesting to see the difference between Kawasaki's KX250 and KT250 below, same year (1975). Very little travel on the KT! Was the KT only offered in the US in 1976? Also curious what the letter "A" denotes (KT250A) for example?

The KT250 was available only in 1975 and 1976 I think,dunno what the A means...although I owned one for 15 years,so probably knew at some stage.The KT250 was designed by Don Smith,who developed the Montesa Cota,and there are a lot of similarities in the two.The KT250 was the best of the Japanese 250's,but still not a very good trials bike - by far the most commonly used Japanese Trials bike was the TY175,a really sweet little bike.
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:12 PM   #659
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Rl 250

Suzuki made one too.
A nice motor but a very "long" feeling frame and steering. They had some success in aftermarket kit frames.






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Old 03-24-2008, 05:08 AM   #660
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WOW, thanks for the memories

Just found this thread. I too raced back in the mid-sixties thru the mid-seventies. Scrambles and hill climbs with a little yamamamma, later flat track with a 441, and finally motocross in the 70's with a Husky 250.

Now I'm an old man, like most of the guys reading this thread. I still got an old Bul (Alpina) but it only runs for 20 minutes at a time then I gotta work on it for 2 hours (ignition issues).

I just bought a brand-spanking new DR650 for adventure travels to Baja, Mexico and all the dirt roads I can find here in the US.

I had a hard time shelling out money for the fancy-smancy jackets and pants... I remember racin in just work boots, blue-jeans (with duct tape around the boots to keep the mud out) and a sweatshirt. Open faced helmets.... what happened??

I have never been to Vintage Moto Days in Lexington? But I think I will make the trip this year. Thanks for all the old photos guys... I feel young again...

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