ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-10-2008, 07:28 PM   #91
KaceCoyote
Pass the queer more beer
 
KaceCoyote's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: St.Louis
Oddometer: 5,614
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1952
I think the supermotards made from DS's are great looking, but what are the advatages over a sport bike on the road? Is it the ability to go off road as well?
Lighter, cheaper, they dont care about curbs or huge ass potholes.
__________________
When the smoke clear, you can see the sky again
There will be the chopped off heads of leviathan
My friend, they call 'em strangers
Everybody talk to them end up in some danger
-MF Doom, Strange ways
KaceCoyote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2008, 08:09 PM   #92
banjopete
broke, student, lurker
 
banjopete's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Edmonton for school, but North Vancouver is home
Oddometer: 186
+ they don't look like every other crotch rocket out there, no need to be on the latest model, since most of those guys don't have a clue what the hell you're riding anyway
banjopete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2008, 09:43 PM   #93
Albie
Kool Aid poisoner
 
Albie's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Upstate SC
Oddometer: 7,599
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1952
I think the supermotards made from DS's are great looking, but what are the advatages over a sport bike on the road? Is it the ability to go off road as well?
The fact they'll smoke a sport bike in the twistees for one. It's only when you can use the HP of a sport bike that it begins to even out.
Albie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2008, 09:44 PM   #94
KaceCoyote
Pass the queer more beer
 
KaceCoyote's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: St.Louis
Oddometer: 5,614
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjopete
+ they don't look like every other crotch rocket out there, no need to be on the latest model, since most of those guys don't have a clue what the hell you're riding anyway
Your also totally ignored by cops and squids. You get all the goodies a sportbike offered, and then its "hey wheres that trail go?"
__________________
When the smoke clear, you can see the sky again
There will be the chopped off heads of leviathan
My friend, they call 'em strangers
Everybody talk to them end up in some danger
-MF Doom, Strange ways
KaceCoyote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2008, 11:24 PM   #95
Bucho
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Maryland
Oddometer: 1,724
narrow
lightweight
awesome handling
up right/dirtbike position
ability to handle rough or even unpaved roads with no problem


I personally like the fact that they are cheap and wreck well
Bucho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 05:51 AM   #96
OnlyVees
Moto-journalist
 
OnlyVees's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2006
Location: 3217'31.37N, 11051'27.00W
Oddometer: 875
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1952
I think the supermotards made from DS's are great looking, but what are the advatages over a sport bike on the road? Is it the ability to go off road as well?
Ask my buddy who couldn't shake me yesterday on a tight, mountain road. (he was on a ZX6R)
__________________
2 kids, 1 wife, no bike.
OnlyVees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 05:52 AM   #97
snarf
WFO and clueless
 
snarf's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Wichita, KS
Oddometer: 656
Thats another good point. If you put a set of sliders, and some handguards on the bike, they're darn near indestructable, short of you cartwheeling the bike down a hill or something like that.

Plastic is cheap :)
__________________
-Derek
'If you wanna play tough, you better be stupid!'
snarf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 07:46 AM   #98
Chief Gunner
Studly Adventurer
 
Chief Gunner's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Rota Spain
Oddometer: 733
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnlyVees
Ask my buddy who couldn't shake me yesterday on a tight, mountain road. (he was on a ZX6R)
Yup another testimony here: A guy on an R6 low sided his bike trying to keep up with me going down the super twistie roads on Mt Palomar here in San Diego about a week ago.

He said he had never ridden with an SM before and could not believe the speed and the smoothness I carried into the turns.

I am not bragging about it at all just sharing a little of what I have learned. I felt really bad to see such a good guy damage a beautiful bike but I was happy to see him get up and finish the ride (the speeds were not that fast).

I am a total SM noob and I try to maintain a cautious, humble and respectful approach to the way I ride because I'm older and I have nothing to prove to anyone. I'm in for the fun of it and nothing more.


My cut on the SM's being superior over sportbikes in the twisties are these points that I've thought about.

Keeping in mind opinions are like assholes, every one has one

Here we go.

1. They (SM's) are much lighter.

2. They brake better with even a single 320mm rotor up front compared to a sportie (again because the are lighter).

3. The gearing is set up for lower end torque which helps with controlable traction when you are on the throttle in the turns.

4.The transmsissions engine brake better which makes for better control.
(probably more to do with my final point)

3. The suspension set ups on SM's are more forgiving in bumpy sections and on rougher surfaces.

4. The wider MX style handlebars allow for more leverage when throwing the bike over in turns.

5.The wheel base geometry and rake of the forks on SM's allow for tighter turning radius'.

And finally most SM riders I have met have years of experience riding in the dirt which I believe goes a long way with the unbelievable way they can slice up the scariest twisties.

Most of the sport bike enthusiasts I have met have limited experience on dirtbikes and do not understand the differences in the SM riders use of body English and riding techniques.

Just my two cents, not trying to troll or stir up a hornets nest.

This is a great thread and I'm learning allot, thanks guys!

Gunz
__________________
I've gone Orange
2013 990 Adventure
2010 KTM 530 EXC

Chief Gunner screwed with this post 03-11-2008 at 07:53 AM
Chief Gunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 08:06 AM   #99
Barry
Just Beastly
 
Barry's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: Fredericksburg, Va.
Oddometer: 6,914
The hottness...









__________________
Tail of the Dragon at Deal's Gap... Avoid it now, do a trackday.

Do not do business with Myrtle West Cycle... Not a reputable vendor by a long shot.
Barry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 09:15 PM   #100
OConnor
Bad juju
 
OConnor's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2004
Location: Midwest
Oddometer: 3,101
You wash that thing too much!
OConnor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 06:58 AM   #101
Barry
Just Beastly
 
Barry's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: Fredericksburg, Va.
Oddometer: 6,914
Quote:
Originally Posted by OConnor
You wash that thing too much!
Those are not recent pics. They were literally when the bike was brand new. It has some track miles on it now.

Barry
__________________
Tail of the Dragon at Deal's Gap... Avoid it now, do a trackday.

Do not do business with Myrtle West Cycle... Not a reputable vendor by a long shot.
Barry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 10:07 AM   #102
Chief Gunner
Studly Adventurer
 
Chief Gunner's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Rota Spain
Oddometer: 733
This thing looks like a Beast! I'd love to try one.

2007 Husqvarna STR 650 CC
ENGINE: single cylinder 4 stroke
GEARS: 6
STARTING: electric with automatic decompressor
COOLING: by liquid
IGNITION: C.D.I. electronic, with adjustable advance
CARBURETOR: Kehin MX 41, dia 41
FRONT BRAKE: 320mm
REAR BRAKE: 220 mm
FRONT FORK : Upside down hydraulic telescopic fork, dia 50mm
REAR SUSPENSION: Progressive, with patented eccentric system for the continuous adjustment of the set-up, single shock absorber with external spring preload, rebound and compression damping.
FRONT/REAR TYRES: 120/70-17 160/60-17
KERB WEIGHT: 132 Kg
WHEELBASE: 1437,3mm
MIN. GROUND CLEARANCE: 333mm
SEDDLE HEIGHT: 900mm
FUEL TANK CAPACITY: 13 lt
__________________
I've gone Orange
2013 990 Adventure
2010 KTM 530 EXC

Chief Gunner screwed with this post 03-12-2008 at 10:25 AM
Chief Gunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 11:06 AM   #103
brents347
Trusting my Cape...
 
brents347's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Location: Where the hell is Truckee, CA?
Oddometer: 3,376
Here's my two. Sorry neither of them is a Thumper, but they are SM!



__________________
07 Yamaha R6
07 KTM 950 Super Enduro
04 KTM 250exc- plated two-stroke

01 Kawasaki KE100
74 Honda MR50
brents347 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 10:25 AM   #104
CATCH-22
Sublime ADVenturer
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Oddometer: 1,294
I don't race it,but damn,I do have fun on it.
CATCH-22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 12:53 PM   #105
Jolly705
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jolly705's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Tri State Area
Oddometer: 2,309
check out www.esmra.com and come do some track days, a blast for sure!

and www.supermotojunkie.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynpath
I don't race it,but damn,I do have fun on it.
Jolly705 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 12:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014