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Old 06-02-2013, 09:13 AM   #1
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Bmw k1200 gt

starting to see some low mile garage queens showing for sale in the $6K range.

that is a whole pile of bike for the money is it not?
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:18 AM   #2
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Who are you and what have you done with Nachtflug?

It's a BMW, fer chrissakes!
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:25 AM   #3
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I know but I hadn't snapped when those bikes came out. I recall being quite interested in them. thats got to be serious bang for the buck...
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:28 AM   #4
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I have noticed that too. The first generation bikes are excellent except that they are only available in colors that don't appeal to me (the blue isn't bad but it doesn't go with the Pirate theme ... the pea green is horrible )
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:33 AM   #5
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I have noticed that too. The first generation bikes are excellent except that they are only available in colors that don't appeal to me (the blue isn't bad but it doesn't go with the Pirate theme ... the pea green is horrible )
If I got one I'd just cover it with Fox and Monster Energy stickers anyway.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:40 AM   #6
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I know but I hadn't snapped when those bikes came out. I recall being quite interested in them. thats got to be serious bang for the buck...
Well at least they've been out there long enough now that you'll know what you are dealing with. Personally I've done enough BMW clutch jobs to last me a lifetime, and don't need to learn about K bike timing cover leaks.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:45 AM   #7
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Which version are you talking about?

The original GT (2003-2004) was a hot heavy pig, but quite reliable.

The second-gen (2006-2008) is a fast, good handling rocket, but a ticking time bomb engine-wise.

Pick your poison.
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The second-gen (2006-2008) is a fast, good handling rocket, but a ticking time bomb engine-wise.


I'm out of the loop. My brother had a 2006 K-R that tried to kill him, but that was a driveline issue.

What's wrong with the engines?
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #9
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I'm out of the loop. My brother had a 2006 K-R that tried to kill him, but that was a driveline issue.

What's wrong with the engines?
They use a single cam chain to drive the intake cam, then spin the exhaust cam and water pump off it. The chain is wrapped very tightly around the intake cam sprocket, and stretches quickly. Plus, the early tensioners weren't great.....they did a similar design change like they did with the Oilheads a couple years ago. You know its bad when BMW designs a camchain jump guard for retrofit.

That said, we really like our 08 GT. We just don't trust it enough to take it anywhere.
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They use a single cam chain to drive the intake cam, then spin the exhaust cam and water pump off it. The chain is wrapped very tightly around the intake cam sprocket, and stretches quickly. Plus, the early tensioners weren't great.....they did a similar design change like they did with the Oilheads a couple years ago. You know its bad when BMW designs a camchain jump guard for retrofit.

That said, we really like our 08 GT. We just don't trust it enough to take it anywhere.
Is there an interval to measure or replace the chain and/or tensioner?

I really despise the modern trend in manufacturing to use the customer as the beta tester.
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Which version are you talking about?

The original GT (2003-2004) was a hot heavy pig, but quite reliable.
dat one.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:29 PM   #12
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Is there an interval to measure or replace the chain and/or tensioner?
I think the implication is that the owner should move to the $600 K1300 parts kit as soon as possible.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:03 PM   #13
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I got one

I have an 04 K1200GT and here are my thoughts

+smooth throttle rides like it's on rails, in interstate rocket
+ABS, Cruise, heated seat, heated grips, electronic windshield

-Premium fuel (89AKI)
-BMW maintenance costs if you don't do it yourself
-Final drives sometimes go out
-ABS III sometimes goes out (particularly if it is not flushed every 4 years)
-a 50c o-ring might go at some time and leak oil into your dry clutch chamber and you gotta tear into the bike to fix it.

That's about it, quite honestly I rode a 2013 FJR after riding my k1200 and I didn't find any reason to trade the K1200. It is the only bike that stays in my garage year after year. Just understand that it is a bike that prefers open roads, so I have another bike for city riding.

When inspecting, make sure that the guy is up on his PMs and that the ECU is ok. The way to check the ECU is to start the bike cold and blip the throttle (only like 1/5 of the way, no more than 4k), if it lugs and dies (or almost dies) then run away (or knock of $1000+labor), as some of the 166 ECUs have cold start problems that kind of go away when at operating temps.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #14
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Any BMW of that time period with ABS will have servo brakes which are (at best) an acquired taste. At worst, they are a maintenance nightmare and if they fail, you have virtually no brakes.

The Gen 1 K1200 was the ultimate Flying Brick. When they came out, they won most of the sport touring comparisons. You can see comparisons on motorcycle.com.

http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs...aro-15081.html


I'd stay away from the Gen II 1200 GT because of engine and transmission reliability issues - but the k1300 GT is a sweet ride.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:04 PM   #15
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I'd stay away from the Gen II 1200 GT because of engine and transmission reliability issues - but the k1300 GT is a sweet ride.
I never had any problems with my 2008 K12GT. Also, BMW did a recall for the cam chain tensioner some time ago.
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