Majesty 400 or Burgman 400?

[pjheckel]

What are your thoughts on which is a better scoot? And more importantly what MPG do you get!!!

[PassTheGravy]

Go do a search on burgmanusa.com and you'll find tons of posts comparing those two bikes. I own the 650, and have ridden the 400, but never rode the Majesty, so I can't compare them.

[TXGSrider]

That depends on if you're talking about the pre-07 burgman or 07 and later burgmans. The Majesty beats the old Burgman but the new Burgman beats the Majesty.

Pre-07 Burgmans-very maintenance intensive (valve adjustments every 2500 miles), less power than Majesty, smaller trunk (I think).

)7 & 08 Burgmans-dual front brakes, better gas mileage (~10mpg better than Majesty), comparable engine power (upgraded to 400cc instead of old version's 385cc), largest trunk available in a scooter in the US

[tortoise2]

Originally Posted by PassTheGravy

search on burgmanusa.com

Link

[ElusivePedro]

Good info for you above. I am slow to the uptake sometimes because of other website responsibilities (including BUSA).

The pre-08 "improved-remodeled" Burgman400 gave quite a few people fits with a belt squeel issue (seems to be almost exclusivley 2007 models). Also this squeel issue seemed to exclusivley happen on US-spec models. I did not discern any europeans voicing their concerns about their '07-issue 400s.

The Majesty is tried and true which, in my book, counts a bunch - the "new and improved" Burgman had that initial production "issue" but it seems as though that "problem" has now been mitigated.

My only advice is this - be very inquizitive about the "belt-squeel thing" if you are looking at pulling the trigger on a 2007 Burgman 400.

I really like the stats on the late model Suzukis versus the Yamahas. The longer wheelbase, the twin front disk brakes (now not linked-vs the linked single front disk pre-07), along with the more appropiate service intervals, and the lower seat height etc.

There is a website for the venerable Majesty - it is www.majestyusa.com. There is about a thousand registered users and over 20 thousand posts.

The headlamps on the little burger are now single lamp for low beam and both lamps for high beam (vs the pre-07).

Oh - fwiw - I don't like the looks of the pogo-stick rear shocks on the Yammi (vs mono-shock on the burg) either. (minutiae - I know)

I have always liked Yamahas, and, like a whole lot of ppl said - if you feel better on the maj and the dealer is better/closer - well - that counts for a LOT.

My .02c & hth.

Me

[pjheckel]

The belt squeek sounds like an anoying problem. Does anybody know what they changed for 08 to fix the problem?

[tortoise2]

Originally Posted by pjheckel

The belt squeek sounds like an anoying problem. Does anybody know what they changed for 08 to fix the problem?

What a slacker . . too lazy to even research a linked forum!
Burgman 400 (2007+model)

[taranaki]

Me? I'd go with the Burgman, but I'd Locktite the important fasteners right away as some owners have lost important things.....
like front wheels.....

Also, the 2007 had transmission issues related to the power bump over the prior year. Suzi fitted a new tranny for 2008.

Below will link to a maxi scooter site with some good info.





http://scootermaxi.com/index.php?con...&articleID=170

http://scootermaxi.com/index.php?con...&articleID=126

[pjheckel]

Cool website. I found a yellow reflex on CL with ABS and I may just go with that. probably get better MPG anyway. its $3000 with 4400 miles and mint condition, 2003

[MrVvrroomm]

'07+ Burgman 400

[vortexau]

Then there's the Honda Silverwing 400-
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichel...r-wing-400.htm

which . . . like its bigger brother the 600 . . . mounts a twin-cylinder engine rigidly motorcycle-style:

The 400cc version has also inherited from the Silver Wing 600 its sophisticated frame, which has nothing to do with that of a "traditional" scooter where the engine and transmission assembly is interdependent on the rear wheel and oscillates with damping.

On the Silver Wing 400, the twin cylinder is fixed at the heart of a steel frame while the rear wheel is suspended by an independent swingarm, as on a motorcycle. By balancing the mass borne by the front and rear axles and by optimising the overall rigidity, this is supposed to optimise the road holding of the scooter at high speed. In practice, although the road holding of the Silver Wing is beyond reproach at cruising speed (even lively) the steering nevertheless remains likely to lose precision in long fast corners. To tell the truth, only a Yamaha T Max 500 copes better in these conditions.

(note- I did ride a Majesty YP400 for 2 years, but would likely choose a different contender with a maxi next time)

[TXGSrider]

We don't get the silverwing 400 in the US

[pjheckel]

yup, and now we dont even get the reflex 250.

maybe honda realized that most americans dont have enough balls to ride a scooter on the freeway! for some reason they need +600cc to do 55 MPH when a 150 would do it just fine!

[TXGSrider]

Originally Posted by pjheckel

yup, and now we dont even get the reflex 250.

maybe honda realized that most americans dont have enough balls to ride a scooter on the freeway! for some reason they need +600cc to do 55 MPH when a 150 would do it just fine!

Society is still too hung up on the "bigger is better" ideology. Remember when a 700cc bike was a big bike? And people touring on 350's? Now you need a 2000+cc bike just to go bar hopping!

Hopefully rising gas prices will change peoples' mentality about horsepower and needs v. wants.

[ElusivePedro]

Originally Posted by pjheckel

yup, and now we dont even get the reflex 250.

maybe honda realized that most americans dont have enough balls to ride a scooter on the freeway! for some reason they need +600cc to do 55 MPH when a 150 would do it just fine!

Meh - whatever. I sold my Burgman 650 and now ride a Honda Helix 250 in addition to my DL1000. I say choice is the spice of life. I would not want to traverse county 4 lane highways with anything smaller - let alone the Interstate... Now the thing is is that many ppl buy these big ass scooters because they can tour comfortably for thousands of miles while gobbling up the interstate at 75mph or more - easily.

A 150 or 250 is simply not capable of that. I love my little 250 Helix, but it sure as heck doesn't offer me the magin of performance safety that the larger scoots do - especially when I have to take it on the interstate for a few miles...