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Old 03-27-2008, 11:50 AM   #16
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:03 PM   #17
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Take a Look at KYMCO

Take a look at the KYMCO 250's and 500. I got the 500 and prefer it to any other. 5500 trouble free miles. They started out making parts and engines for Honda in 63. Located in Tiawan. They have a distrubution center in the USA in ASouth Carolina. Google Kymco World for more info!
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:08 AM   #18
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I have a Kymco xciting 250. I like it. Since it's built on a platform engineered for the 500 it's over-braked/suspended. Fit and finish are on par with Japanese scoots. The CVT drive is known for its silky operation and low maintenance. VERY comfortable and stable on the highway. The frontal area provides excellent weather protection and makes for greater conspicuity on the road. 15" front and 14" rear tires a +. Givi has a big, solid tail rack for it.

Downsides:

-Not much underseat storage. It'll take a half shell and some kit,
but the Burgman will swallow up two full shells with room left over.

-It's carbureted.

-The 250 is nimble and smooth, but you're pushing redline on the
freeway. OK for short runs, but you wouldn't want to stay there
all day. The 500 will cruise the interstate all day long, but it's
heavier and the HUGE final drive unit might limit lean angles. I've
yet to ride one but it gets great reviews.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:14 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by pjheckel
yup, and now we dont even get the reflex 250.

maybe honda realized that most americans dont have enough balls to ride a scooter on the freeway! for some reason they need +600cc to do 55 MPH when a 150 would do it just fine!
So, is it possible for an american to nip over to Canada, and ride home on a Reflex?
http://www.honda.ca/MCPE/Motorcycle/...Model=NSS250A7
NSS250A (msrp $7549 Canadian)
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:00 PM   #20
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I just test rode the reflex and silverwing at the dealer today. The reflex was crap. didn't handle that great, was a little unstable at higher speed and the 0-40 accelleration was slower than my Yamaha Riva 125. The Silverwing was a rocketship, 600cc two cylinder. it handled better too, even though it weighs in at 540 lbs. But I didnt like the fact that it had a vibration when accelerating that gave you a insatiable itch! the kind I used to get from my TS 185 2 stroke. I'm not paying 8 grand for that experience again. So I have yet to test ride a Burgman, which I hope will be a happy median.
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:46 PM   #21
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I wrestled for a while over 'em all. I thought I wanted a 250, but decided I needed a bit more oomph. I really liked the Morphous. The Honda Silverwing is quick, but heavier 'n hell, and more than I need.

I ended up with an '08 Majesty 400. I wanted a Burgman, but found the Majesty was almost $900 cheaper around here. I walked into the stealership with cash today, made a deal, and rode away. I put 190 miles on it this afternoon, only coming home because it started to rain.

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Old 08-29-2009, 08:27 PM   #22
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I probably lucked out, but my Burg 400 was nearly $1000 cheaper than the Majesty.
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Old 08-29-2009, 08:34 PM   #23
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I am going to say this one, other than the mechanical concerns, comes down to ergonomics and rider preferences.

This is based on my readings and has no basis in first-hand knowledge (or prejudice).
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Old 08-30-2009, 06:32 AM   #24
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I have A 2007 Majesty and a 2008 Burgman 650. The Majesty 400 is sweet, and will run all day with the big boys, however it is a bit cramped for me since I have long legs. That's why I bought the Burgman 650, It fits. I ride the Majesty on short errands and the Burgman on longer rides. Both very good machines.
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Old 08-30-2009, 09:43 AM   #25
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I love my Maj but if I ride all day I wake up w/ major leg cramps in the middle of the night. I probably would help to work out once in a while...
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:25 AM   #26
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:13 AM   #27
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Just Bought a 2004 Reflex Used.
6800 miles, Black Sport Model, No ABS
$2700
Never Dropped.
$3000 was my price bogey, cheapest Silverwings were $3500 to 4500
I'm too much of a Honda Guy to buy anything else.
Majesty 400 would have been my off-brand choice.

Like the relative low weight, compared to Silverwing.
Miss the Power - I think my 150 Elite will smoke this tank off the line.
Handles and Stops worlds away better than Helix.
I like the Comfort and the Sportbike looks.

Has good acceleration from 0 to 30 and 45 to 60, BIG flatspot in the middle.
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Old 08-30-2009, 06:09 PM   #28
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Sit on them. Majesty had no leg room to speak of. Kept hitting the handlebars on my knees. Burgman 400 had no such issues. Burger was just more comfortable and I liked the dual front discs.

Leftover '08 Burgman 400. N. Jax Motorsports....$5150 OTD.

Replacing Kymco People S250.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:41 AM   #29
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Just Bought a 2004 Reflex Used.
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Has good acceleration from 0 to 30 and 45 to 60, BIG flatspot in the middle.
ernest, the flat spot in the Reflex is easily fixed, the CVT is set up to limit RPM at that speed, but you can remove 3 of the 6 rollers in the CVT and it gets much more responsive.

Sign up on the Honda Reflex Yahoo Group, and get instructions on the Koehler mod.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:05 PM   #30
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iv had 2 burgman 650's and now iv got a 2007 majesty 400. i love the maj 400!!! im 6'2'' so i did a few mods and its so comfy now! much better than the burgman ever was. im touring on it. i also have a vstrom and ill take this scooter on any long trip that id take the strom.

iv added a 12v plug for charging cell

top wind deflector in windshield

handlebar risers

drivers backrest. its just the stock butt pad raised up.

pics...
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