Majesty 400 or Burgman 400?

[LarryRickenbacker]

Howdy,

Several years ago, yours truly test-drove a lightly used Majesty (It might've been a Burgman 400, but cannot recall) and came away mightily impressed; it was like floating on a cloud, compared to my little 125cc Daelim-which was no slacker.
I'd probably go with the lightly used model that has the best and or closest dealership. I believe that the Majesty's (What a cool bike!) front turn signal lights are always "on" and simply go from "off" to "on" repeatedly when employed for a turn, thus they'd burn out faster than a traditional turn signal light. OTOH, this would also improve frontal visibility and could prove a life-saver at intersections. Now, I've a hankering for a Majesty/Burger 400!

[gumshoe4]

Majesty's a great bike...I have a friend who rode one for some years and she really liked it...but it doesn't fit me at all and the Burg 400, also a great bike, does...

Sit on both and ride both if you can...

[JerryH]

I looked at a new Burgman, and a leftover new Majesty. The Majesty was over $1000 cheaper. Beware of the Burgman, it still requires valve adjustments REAL often, and it is an all say procedure, you have to tear the whole scooter apart. This must be done on purpose, because modern technology makes it unnecessary to build a scooter or motorcycle that requires it's valves to be adjusted at all.

The Majesty will go 26,000 miles before requiring a valve adjustment (which would take me about 2 years), but apparently when it does need one it is a '$600+ job at a dealer. I don't even know if it is feasible for an owner to do it.

Valve adjustments seem to be the Achilles Heel of pretty much all maxi scooters. Which is a shame, because I could probably be easily persuaded to lay down ten grand for one if it was as reliable and easy to maintain as most modern motorcycles.

[HandKPhil]

Originally Posted by newo2u

Sit on them. Majesty had no leg room to speak of. Kept hitting the handlebars on my knees. Burgman 400 had no such issues. Burger was just more comfortable and I liked the dual front discs.

Leftover '08 Burgman 400. N. Jax Motorsports....$5150 OTD.

Replacing Kymco People S250.

You know the Majesty handlebars are adjustable, right? Just take off the plastic covers, loosen the handlebar clamps and rotate the bars up. Done. I'm 6'-1" with a 34 in. inseam, and I have plenty of room on my Majesty.

My '09 Majesty has some fantastic front brakes, by the way. Never drove a Burger 400 though, so I can't really compare 'em. I do think the Majesty has way better styling. The chrome mirrors on the Burger just look so 1979...

[bikeridermark]

Originally Posted by JerryH

Valve adjustments seem to be the Achilles Heel of pretty much all maxi scooters. Which is a shame, because I could probably be easily persuaded to lay down ten grand for one if it was as reliable and easy to maintain as most modern motorcycles.

Don't even need a feeler gauge to adjust my Reflex valves! Remove beltcase airfilter ( to turn crank ), timing mark plug, loosen two bolts.
With a few variator mods, they accelerate well, too.
Used, low mileage ones go for under $3000.

[samc]

Originally Posted by JerryH

I looked at a new Burgman, and a leftover new Majesty. The Majesty was over $1000 cheaper. Beware of the Burgman, it still requires valve adjustments REAL often, and it is an all say procedure, you have to tear the whole scooter apart. This must be done on purpose, because modern technology makes it unnecessary to build a scooter or motorcycle that requires it's valves to be adjusted at all.

The Majesty will go 26,000 miles before requiring a valve adjustment (which would take me about 2 years), but apparently when it does need one it is a '$600+ job at a dealer. I don't even know if it is feasible for an owner to do it.

Valve adjustments seem to be the Achilles Heel of pretty much all maxi scooters. Which is a shame, because I could probably be easily persuaded to lay down ten grand for one if it was as reliable and easy to maintain as most modern motorcycles.

2007 and later Burgman (Burgmen for more than one?) have shim/bucket lifters, valve adjustment interval is something like 16k miles (forget exactly, it's a long time, though). It was the pre '07 ones that needed adjustment every week or so.

[creighta]

Idk about adjustable handlebars on majesty. You have to remove the brake hoses and reservoirs to get at the screws for that cowling from what I've read. I will say that I did not like the maj when I sat on it at the dealer, but after test riding one I had to buy it.

Fwiw I went majesty after asking the same question you have. I have a Yamaha dealer an hour away ( large part of decision) and the pre 08 models of Burgman 400 had so many little problems that I was afraid of the newer ones.

Btw, if it plays in I my majesty ranges from 59 to 61 mpg and I have run it over 100, but it felt like 110mph is probably all it has......of you will be comuting on the autobahn you may want a 600.

My wife and 10 yr old son both complain that the pillion is too wide to be comfortable on the majesty if you have company often. Ok because the acceleration is not impressive two up anyhow, still climbs hills well though.

[HandKPhil]

Originally Posted by creighta

Idk about adjustable handlebars on majesty. You have to remove the brake hoses and reservoirs to get at the screws for that cowling from what I've read. I will say that I did not like the maj when I sat on it at the dealer, but after test riding one I had to buy it.

Fwiw I went majesty after asking the same question you have. I have a Yamaha dealer an hour away ( large part of decision) and the pre 08 models of Burgman 400 had so many little problems that I was afraid of the newer ones.

Btw, if it plays in I my majesty ranges from 59 to 61 mpg and I have run it over 100, but it felt like 110mph is probably all it has......of you will be comuting on the autobahn you may want a 600.

My wife and 10 yr old son both complain that the pillion is too wide to be comfortable on the majesty if you have company often. Ok because the acceleration is not impressive two up anyhow, still climbs hills well though.

You don't have to remove anything but a plastic cover to adjust the Majesty handlebars. It's literally an eight minute job. My Majesty seems to be one of the good ones that gets 55-60 mpg too.

[damasovi]

very interesting tread!

Damasovi