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Old Yesterday, 05:21 AM   #1
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Game changer OR Flash in the pan? I stand corrected

CSC Announces the RX-3 Cyclone:
A 250cc Adventure Touring Bike for less than $3000

http://adventuremotorcycle.com/spotl...e#.VBrMr5RdWSq
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Old Yesterday, 05:22 AM   #2
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what game?
sounds like a magazine article
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Old Yesterday, 08:44 AM   #3
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"250cc" and "touring bike" represents an oxymoron to me. Not saying there isn't a market for a dirt cheap bike like that. But I don't see it cutting into the adventure bike market enough to matter. So I doubt it is represents an adventure or dual sport market game changer.

But it might be a dirt cheap motorcycle game changer. If the quality is good enough to be viable and if CSC manages to support it with parts and service well into the future, then maybe it represents the first Chinese motorcycle here I would consider to be worth owning.

If it has a cheap lithium ion battery then maybe the "flash in the pants" thing.
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If the specs listed in the comment section are accurate, it weighs in @ 385lbs! Not sure if that is wet or dry weight...but that is a bit too portly for a 250cc, if you ask me.

For comparison, the WR250R gets slack for being too heavy, and it weighs 295 with a full tank.
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Old Yesterday, 09:06 AM   #5
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The $3K price is an introductory offer. That's not the MSRP.

It weighs 385lbs. A KLR 650 with a full tank weighs 432lbs.

A KLX 250 weighs 298lbs.

I guess I'm not seeing what's so awesome here given the limited post-sales support you'll experience.
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Old Yesterday, 09:24 AM   #6
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The $3K price is an introductory offer. That's not the MSRP.

It weighs 385lbs. A KLR 650 with a full tank weighs 432lbs.

A KLX 250 weighs 298lbs.

I guess I'm not seeing what's so awesome here given the limited post-sales support you'll experience.
Yep.

Roughly the same (if not a bit heavier) than a DR650...It is only 25 lbs lighter than my Gen 1 KLR650 with a full tank (410 wet). Crazy!
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Old Yesterday, 09:31 AM   #7
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People don't buy Chinese for performance. Price is what sells Chinese bikes. So I doubt weight will matter much to people looking at these. Perceived value is all that will matter.

After all Motorcyclist picked the CRL250L as best dual sport based almost entirely on cost vs. performance. Even though it is heavy and has bargain suspension it does the job for cheap.

That is why I said if the bike is decent for the price and support decent enough to keep people happy then maybe Chinese bikes will start putting a dent in low end Japanese bike sales.

Ikea sells boat loads of furniture based on the same theory of it only has to be good enough just as long as it is cheap and looks cool.
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I won't be surprised if some give owners a flash in the pants!

Heck, I'd like to try one for a few weeks just to see what it's like and how poorly/well it is built.
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Yep, could be a decent little bike hidden under all the crap they loaded onto the poor thing.
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Yep, could be a decent little bike hidden under all the crap they loaded onto the poor thing.
I vote for a comparison amongst all the twofittys Loaded up and stripped down

Would be a huge upset if a sub 3K bike pants'd the Japs
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Even if it's not for me, I'm glad someone's mixing up the "adventure" bike market. The world, or at least the US, has enough 500+ pound Gravel Goldwings.
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game changer? no,,,, open the door for smaller bike options to come into the USA? maybe.
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At that price buy 2 and use one for parts. Looks like the only thing you could carry in the side cases are a couple of toasted cheese sammiches.
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Not to be too picky but the expression is "Flash in the Pan" not pants. The origins of which are from the old flintlock days when the spark would light the ignition powder in "the pan" but not fire the weapon. IE a dud.

And I think the bike will do well if it is a quality piece of kit. If it's just junk it'll fail quickly. Probably better suited for markets outside the US where Adv Tourers don't carry everything but the kitchen sink (guilty ).
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I'd consider something like this for upper midwest fire roads. It's a little portly but would fit the bill for me. Seeing that a halfway decent used XL, XR, KLR, DR, etc can't be bought for that price, it could be a game changer.
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