KTM 530 EXCR- More better! - Page 146

oinky1982 · 09-30-2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deseret Rider

Oinky-----You are riding down the road 85 mph----you feel a terrible vibration----and you are twisting around and looking down at your chain and seeing it slapping up and down?????? Do I have that right?

Are you kidding me?

Yes, you're right but aroune 55 and 85 it does the same problem

No kidding

Navin · 09-30-2011, 02:20 PM

I mentioned the MP rimloks for you. Balance your wheels, my 530 SM can run all day at 80 mph without a hint of vibration or chain slap.

KMC1 · 10-01-2011, 09:33 AM

I found that the petcocks on the 25 liter KTM tank are smaller then the (8mm?) stock petcocks?? Well that's just great...

Anyonr have fuel starvation when running the smaller (1/4") fuel line??

What a dumb thing to overlook....

Deseret Rider · 10-01-2011, 09:36 AM

I might ride my BMW at 85 mph----haven't been there with the KTM---but I can Garoooonteee that I'm not watching the chain at that speed! I do agree that lite locks (from Motion Pro) staged 180 degrees apart will improve balance---while making tire mounting harder---(unless you know my 'secret'.) *

Hmmmmm! come to think about it my BMW doesn't have a chain!

For 2 cents ( payable when we happen to meet on the trail somewhere) I'll divulge my secret method via PM to anyone who wants to know but only to those that changes their own tires. Those that pay the shops for that job won't need to know anyway.

Hodakaguy · 10-01-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMC1

I found that the petcocks on the 25 liter KTM tank are smaller then the (8mm?) stock petcocks?? Well that's just great...

Anyonr have fuel starvation when running the smaller (1/4") fuel line??

What a dumb thing to overlook....

You won't notice any difference, 1/4" is plenty.

Hodakaguy

jesusgatos · 10-01-2011, 11:20 AM

My brother rode his EXC 85mph all the way from Chico to the Virginia City race and then rode 85mph all the way back after he finished the race. Bike didn't miss a beat. It was on SM wheels (with his dirt wheels strapped to the back fender), but don't really see how that would affect chain slap or whatever. Just got a 450XC-W myself and it seems pretty smooth at-speed? Wonder what's wrong with yours.

Hodakaguy · 10-01-2011, 11:43 AM

I know it's been mentioned that KTM's like the chain ran on the loose side compared to most other bikes, but it's also easy to run it to loose. A chain that's to loose will cause excessive chain slap/noise and increase the likelihood of breaking a chain.

Ignore the sticker on the swingarm for chain adjustment as it's not accurate. Place the bike on a lift or a bike stand. Remove the rear shock (only two bolts and takes a couple minutes at most) and lift the swing arm up and through it's stroke by hand (chain will be loose initially, get tight, then get loose again as the swing arm goes through it's stroke), check the chain tension at several spots and find the tightest spot. Adjust the chain so you have a slight bit of slack at the tightest spot, re-install the shock and place the bike back on it's kick stand. Now measure your chain slack, this will be the slack you will want to adjust to from now on.

Hodakaguy

KMC1 · 10-01-2011, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodakaguy

You won't notice any difference, 1/4" is plenty.

Hodakaguy

Thanks HG!
I really appreciate all the advice and info I've been getting from everyone. I'm about 90% done getting the bike modded - it will be done today barring anything out of the ordinary happening...

and I can tell you, it's going to be one SAAAWEET ride when it's finished up, for the type of riding I have in mind for it...

I'll post some pics when I get'er done!

bikepikespeak.com · 10-01-2011, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodakaguy

I know it's been mentioned that KTM's like the chain ran on the loose side compared to most other bikes, but it's also easy to run it to loose. A chain that's to loose will cause excessive chain slap/noise and increase the likelihood of breaking a chain.

Ignore the sticker on the swingarm for chain adjustment as it's not accurate. Place the bike on a lift or a bike stand. Remove the rear shock (only two bolts and takes a couple minutes at most) and lift the swing arm up and through it's stroke by hand (chain will be loose initially, get tight, then get loose again as the swing arm goes through it's stroke), check the chain tension at several spots and find the tightest spot. Adjust the chain so you have a slight bit of slack at the tightest spot, re-install the shock and place the bike back on it's kick stand. Now measure your chain slack, this will be the slack you will want to adjust to from now on.

Hodakaguy

Good info

Thanks

FlyingDutchman · 10-02-2011, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodakaguy

I know it's been mentioned that KTM's like the chain ran on the loose side compared to most other bikes, but it's also easy to run it to loose. A chain that's to loose will cause excessive chain slap/noise and increase the likelihood of breaking a chain.

Ignore the sticker on the swingarm for chain adjustment as it's not accurate. Place the bike on a lift or a bike stand. Remove the rear shock (only two bolts and takes a couple minutes at most) and lift the swing arm up and through it's stroke by hand (chain will be loose initially, get tight, then get loose again as the swing arm goes through it's stroke), check the chain tension at several spots and find the tightest spot. Adjust the chain so you have a slight bit of slack at the tightest spot, re-install the shock and place the bike back on it's kick stand. Now measure your chain slack, this will be the slack you will want to adjust to from now on.

Hodakaguy

I agree with this but how did it measure compared to the KTM advised method?

What factors into the reason we can't just have set KTM Chain Adjustment Measurement?

sprocket sizes?

chain length?

I run 13/50 and 14/50 using 118 link anybody measured those set-ups yet?

Hodakaguy · 10-02-2011, 01:42 PM

I measure mine on the top of the swingarm at the end of the chain slider. The gap between the end of the slider and the chain end up being 3 fingers wide (mid finger), makes it real quick to reach down and check the measurment. You can also just measure the factory way and see what you get. Wherever you measure just use that measurment in the future to check adjustment and you should be fine.

I haven't given much thought to how different size sprockets etc would affect chain slack...It might affect it slightly depending on how far back or forward your wheel is mounted on the swingarm?, I wouldn't think by much though. With the linkless design and pivot point of our swingarm both sprockets will be closest (loose chain) when they are at either end of full swing arm stroke (either up or down) and farthest from each other (tight chain) when the sprockets are in line with each other (about half stroke on the swing arm).

The bikes are all the same so someones measurments should work for you, it's really easy just to check it though and have good peace of mind that your not over tight or to loose.

Hodakaguy

Fulano · 10-02-2011, 02:24 PM

Drowned the bike this past weekend. Changed the oil and filter until it ran clear.
The tranny oil was whiter than the engine oil. I can understand the engine oil turning into a milkshake, it ain't my first attempt at scubaing, but the tranny? How'd it get in there?

FlyingDutchman · 10-02-2011, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulano

Drowned the bike this past weekend. Changed the oil and filter until it ran clear.
The tranny oil was whiter than the engine oil. I can understand the engine oil turning into a milkshake, it ain't my first attempt at scubaing, but the tranny? How'd it get in there?

Stock it is vented to the carb.

KevinColorado · 10-02-2011, 04:09 PM

My neighbor has been considering purchasing a 530 for quite a while... I've given him all the reasons I chose the 530

What are ya'alls reasons for choosing the 530??

I want to give him a long list of pros so he feels good about the cash he's about to drop.

dirtdiver · 10-02-2011, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinColorado

My neighbor has been considering purchasing a 530 for quite a while... I've given him all the reasons I chose the 530

What are ya'alls reasons for choosing the 530??

I want to give him a long list of pros so he feels good about the cash he's about to drop.

Lightweight, big bore bike with good reviews that comes street legal. Really not that many choices in CA.

steve

10-01-2011, 09:33 AM	#2178
KMC1 There is no spoon. Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Greater SLC Oddometer: 725	I found that the petcocks on the 25 liter KTM tank are smaller then the (8mm?) stock petcocks?? Well that's just great... Anyonr have fuel starvation when running the smaller (1/4") fuel line?? What a dumb thing to overlook.... __________________ Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q&sns=em An Overview of the United States National Debt: http://www.davemanuel.com/us-national-debt-clock.php

10-01-2011, 09:36 AM	#2179
Deseret Rider Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2008 Location: East Central Utah (Deseret) Oddometer: 188	85 mph---and what are you looking at? I might ride my BMW at 85 mph----haven't been there with the KTM---but I can Garoooonteee that I'm not watching the chain at that speed! I do agree that lite locks (from Motion Pro) staged 180 degrees apart will improve balance---while making tire mounting harder---(unless you know my 'secret'.) * Hmmmmm! come to think about it my BMW doesn't have a chain! For 2 cents ( payable when we happen to meet on the trail somewhere) I'll divulge my secret method via PM to anyone who wants to know but only to those that changes their own tires. Those that pay the shops for that job won't need to know anyway.

10-01-2011, 11:20 AM	#2181
jesusgatos fishing with dynamite Joined: Nov 2006 Location: on the road Oddometer: 2,029	My brother rode his EXC 85mph all the way from Chico to the Virginia City race and then rode 85mph all the way back after he finished the race. Bike didn't miss a beat. It was on SM wheels (with his dirt wheels strapped to the back fender), but don't really see how that would affect chain slap or whatever. Just got a 450XC-W myself and it seems pretty smooth at-speed? Wonder what's wrong with yours. __________________ GatosBros · Crux Studio · Trails Less Traveled

10-01-2011, 11:43 AM	#2182
Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Eastern WA State Oddometer: 1,684	I know it's been mentioned that KTM's like the chain ran on the loose side compared to most other bikes, but it's also easy to run it to loose. A chain that's to loose will cause excessive chain slap/noise and increase the likelihood of breaking a chain. Ignore the sticker on the swingarm for chain adjustment as it's not accurate. Place the bike on a lift or a bike stand. Remove the rear shock (only two bolts and takes a couple minutes at most) and lift the swing arm up and through it's stroke by hand (chain will be loose initially, get tight, then get loose again as the swing arm goes through it's stroke), check the chain tension at several spots and find the tightest spot. Adjust the chain so you have a slight bit of slack at the tightest spot, re-install the shock and place the bike back on it's kick stand. Now measure your chain slack, this will be the slack you will want to adjust to from now on. Hodakaguy __________________ NV 2012 - In Memory of the Crewmen RR: CLICK HERE Adventure Is Out There - NV RR: CLICK HERE Riding Through History - NV RR: CLICK HERE And Then There Were Four - OR RR: CLICK HERE My VW Syncro Westy Build Thread: CLICK HERE

10-02-2011, 01:42 PM	#2186
Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Eastern WA State Oddometer: 1,684	I measure mine on the top of the swingarm at the end of the chain slider. The gap between the end of the slider and the chain end up being 3 fingers wide (mid finger), makes it real quick to reach down and check the measurment. You can also just measure the factory way and see what you get. Wherever you measure just use that measurment in the future to check adjustment and you should be fine. I haven't given much thought to how different size sprockets etc would affect chain slack...It might affect it slightly depending on how far back or forward your wheel is mounted on the swingarm?, I wouldn't think by much though. With the linkless design and pivot point of our swingarm both sprockets will be closest (loose chain) when they are at either end of full swing arm stroke (either up or down) and farthest from each other (tight chain) when the sprockets are in line with each other (about half stroke on the swing arm). The bikes are all the same so someones measurments should work for you, it's really easy just to check it though and have good peace of mind that your not over tight or to loose. Hodakaguy __________________ NV 2012 - In Memory of the Crewmen RR: CLICK HERE Adventure Is Out There - NV RR: CLICK HERE Riding Through History - NV RR: CLICK HERE And Then There Were Four - OR RR: CLICK HERE My VW Syncro Westy Build Thread: CLICK HERE

09-30-2011, 02:20 PM	#2177
Navin Unwounding Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Hitting the trails Oddometer: 4,326	I mentioned the MP rimloks for you. Balance your wheels, my 530 SM can run all day at 80 mph without a hint of vibration or chain slap.

10-02-2011, 02:24 PM	#2187
Fulano Scooter Trash Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Raising Hell in Dixie Oddometer: 409	Drowned bike Drowned the bike this past weekend. Changed the oil and filter until it ran clear. The tranny oil was whiter than the engine oil. I can understand the engine oil turning into a milkshake, it ain't my first attempt at scubaing, but the tranny? How'd it get in there? __________________ Been to Spain, Maine and Spokane. Jumped rope, smoked dope, farted, fucked and fought round the world, twice. Hell, I've even seen goats fuck in the market place, but I've never seen shit like this!

10-02-2011, 04:09 PM	#2189
KevinColorado Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Woodland Park, Colorado Oddometer: 237	Why the 530?? My neighbor has been considering purchasing a 530 for quite a while... I've given him all the reasons I chose the 530 What are ya'alls reasons for choosing the 530?? I want to give him a long list of pros so he feels good about the cash he's about to drop.

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