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Old 03-05-2012, 09:17 AM   #2821
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I will spend some time tonight looking at where I could add another radiator to the 530. My thinking is that since these bikes cost so much I better make it last as best I can. So for now I will be doing the HG method.

I may have to get into the case anyway because I am noticing that when in nuetral and pushing the "easy button" the bike wants to lurch. So my guess is that the clutch thingy that is mentioned way earlier in this thread is dragging and needs an adjustment. Time for some research into the archives. I know HG did an incredible write up on this and I have it somewhere to review.

Honsetly I wouldn't worry to much about the oil capacity, you'll get just as many hrs out of the bike if you change it often and run a quality oil.

If your torque limiter is slipping it would cause the engine to turn over slower than normal and cause hard starting issues, it can also make it hard to start in gear with the e-starter.

My guess on your issue is your just experiencing cold oil dragging on the clutch basket, is it better once the bike is warmed up?

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Old 03-05-2012, 09:26 AM   #2822
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I think someone should start making oil pickups that drop into the filter cavity (like the CPW unit uses) and them run them to either the Fluidyne radiators with an integrated oil cooler, or to a Setrab or similar separate oil cooler.

But I couldn't find anything like that in existence, so the CPW is what I used.
That is the biggest problem; where to get the oil from and where to return it to the sump. I was thinking of 1/4-1/2 of the left radiator area used as an oil cooler and the remanning radiators with a thicker core. Or a Setrab behind the current left rad.

I had a DR350 back in the day with a nice oil cooler and my current DR650 has one. I remember Honda had one on their XR's around the steering head but it was pretty small.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:12 AM   #2823
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@HG,

Yes, it is much better when warm. Only takes a slight bump of the starter.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:13 AM   #2824
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My 530 tends to run hot... or so I think. The guys I ride with hardly ever seem to have their fans come on - mine is on just about every time we stop. Saturday we were riding in 38-40 degree weather and it was still coming on often. Runs awesome, just wondering if I should be concerned.

I have the following setup:
'08 530 - desmogged, JD Jetting kit installed, KTM fuel mixture screw - 1-1/2 out, hardparts fan set up, standard juice w/ water wetter, elevation 4,500' - 10,000' (come on often when riding desert at 1,500' also), occasional pop on decel - not bad, hardparts 13L tank (would this restrict airflow?)

I don't know that it is a real problem other than drain on the Battery. Any clues... or leave it alone?
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:21 AM   #2825
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My 530 tends to run hot... or so I think. The guys I ride with hardly ever seem to have their fans come on - mine is on just about every time we stop. Saturday we were riding in 38-40 degree weather and it was still coming on often. Runs awesome, just wondering if I should be concerned.

I have the following setup:
'08 530 - desmogged, JD Jetting kit installed, KTM fuel mixture screw - 1-1/2 out, hardparts fan set up, standard juice w/ water wetter, elevation 4,500' - 10,000' (come on often when riding desert at 1,500' also), occasional pop on decel - not bad, hardparts 13L tank (would this restrict airflow?)

I don't know that it is a real problem other than drain on the Battery. Any clues... or leave it alone?
Check to see what deg thermo switch is installed on your setup. There are two different thermo switches that KTM supplied (can't remember right off hand what temp the two switches are), if you have the lower temp switch installed the fan will cycle a lot more often and run a lot longer than the higher deg switch. I run the hotter switch to keep the fan from cycling as much.

It's possible you have the lower temp switch installed and your friends are running the higher temp switch.

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Old 03-05-2012, 11:22 AM   #2826
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@HG,

Yes, it is much better when warm. Only takes a slight bump of the starter.
Sounds pretty normal. What weight oil are you running?

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Old 03-05-2012, 11:23 AM   #2827
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The JD Jetting Jet Kit usually solved the heat issues from being too lean on the larger KTM's. It is a must-have if you are riding in the desert!
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:26 AM   #2828
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Check to see what deg thermo switch is installed on your setup. There are two different thermo switches that KTM supplied (can't remember right off hand what temp the two switches are), if you have the lower temp switch installed the fan will cycle a lot more often and run a lot longer than the higher deg switch. I run the hotter switch to keep the fan from cycling as much.

It's possible you have the lower temp switch installed and your friends are running the higher temp switch.

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Good idea... didn't know they had differing switches. How do I know which I have?


Just looked -side of the brass switch says 160.08 on one face and 85*80* on the other. 85C = 185F, 80C = 176F, (is this on at 85C and off at 80C?). Or 160.08 equates to 71C... or more likely a part number? What am I really looking for??
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:35 AM   #2829
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Good idea... didn't know they had differing switches. How do I know which I have?
It will be stamped on the side of the thermo switch in Deg C.

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Old 03-05-2012, 11:41 AM   #2830
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found it and edited above - 85*80*. Is this the higher or lower temp?

looks like the low...

http://www.ktmcyclehutt.com/ktm-part...ber=7803504500


http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...033_0257596936
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:44 PM   #2831
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found it and edited above - 85*80*. Is this the higher or lower temp?

looks like the low...

http://www.ktmcyclehutt.com/ktm-part...ber=7803504500


http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...033_0257596936
Yep sounds like you have the low thermo switch, replace it with the 95-100 switch and I bet the fan runs like your friends bikes. Napa has an equivalent switch that's a lot less $$, someone has posted the Napa part number in the past...I can't remember what it was though...I'd do a search but I'm posting from my phone :-).

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Old 03-05-2012, 01:53 PM   #2832
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Yep sounds like you have the low thermo switch, replace it with the 95-100 switch and I bet the fan runs like your friends bikes. Napa has an equivalent switch that's a lot less $$, someone has posted the Napa part number in the past...I can't remember what it was though...I'd do a search but I'm posting from my phone :-).

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It's in the above post... 1984 BMW 318i fan control switch.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:56 PM   #2833
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It's in the above post... 1984 BMW 318i fan control switch.
Great, I clicked on the link from my phone but it just took me to the NAPA home page with nothing showing, could just be the phone.

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Old 03-05-2012, 05:51 PM   #2834
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This iswould be the best solution if someone made an oil filter cover to connect to the radiator.

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Old 03-05-2012, 06:33 PM   #2835
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This iswould be the best solution if someone made an oil filter cover to connect to the radiator.

I can design whatever kind of adapter you guys want, just don't know enough about the oiling system in these engines to decide where the best place to tap in to pick-up and return oil might be. But if there's really a need for some kind of external oil filter adapter, let me know and am sure we can come up with something...
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