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Old 04-13-2008, 04:47 PM   #1
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Rivet versus Clip master link

I replaced the chain on my XR today and while the chain came with a rivet type link I used a clip type master link I had since this was what the old chain used.

This thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331112 got me thinking though. Should I have used the supplied rivetted link ? The clip master link I used was the correct size but an O ring instead of the chain's X ring - any issues there I should be aware of ?

As a general question, what are the benefits of each type of master link - I have had the chain snap twice on my XR and both times it was the clip-style master link that failed. I wonder if a rivet type link wouldn't better - why do people use clip type links ?
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:04 PM   #2
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Have you ever seen a thread about a failed rivet style masterlink? Do a search and see how many threads you find on missing clips from masterlinks.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:09 PM   #3
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Have you ever seen a thread about a failed rivet style masterlink? Do a search and see how many threads you find on missing clips from masterlinks.
Good point.

Why do people use clip-type master links then ? Is it simply a question of ease of installation ?
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:19 PM   #4
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Is it simply a question of ease of installation ?

yes.


I safety wire it and put dab of rtv on it.

1000s of street miles and lots of trackdays and racing.

Zero issues.

YMMV
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yes.


I safety wire it and put dab of rtv on it.

1000s of street miles and lots of trackdays and racing.

Zero issues.

YMMV
Safety wire it how?

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Old 03-17-2011, 05:32 AM   #6
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Safety wire it how?

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Old 03-17-2011, 06:42 AM   #7
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:56 AM   #8
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I think maybe people who have had trouble with clip types either had them installed incorrectly , or something was wrong on the bike causing the chain to rub.

I have seen chains with clip type links break , and the links that broke wasn't the master link, so that meant that the master link inst necessarily the weakest point.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:38 AM   #9
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after barely finishing the last vegas to reno with a totalled front wheel that all the spokes were loosened ...I was doing repairs to my 450x looked at my clip it had came off during the race.. somehow the plate never came off and I have to think it came off early as the Oring was almost worn thru.. I have replaced it with a new master but when installing a new chain I WILL be using a rivet. I always have used the clip until then.. the only reason to have one is to get the chain off to clean it .. you ususally never need to lengthen or shorten it and the clip sometimes is just as hard to get on...

my vote goes to rivet.. hell I get a new chain each season anyway..
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:07 AM   #10
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I have a clip master link on the Husky and I will do that before I ride next. Great idea.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:50 AM   #11
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I can see and agree that the rivet style link is the most secure, but just for purposes of personal experience over decades of motorcycle use, I'll admit to never using anything but the old-school clip masterlink. Riding and racing motorcycles of all kinds and sizes since 1969, I never had a masterlink failure. I race enduros for decades, often even on open-class 2-strokes...no problems. I also had several hot rod Kawasaki Z1 series street bikes with modded engines...no problems. Even had a couple of those Kawasaki H2 750 2-stroke triples...no problems. I even ran some of those crapola Bikemaster cheapest-chains-you-could-buy on a KLR650 with a master link and rode that bike like a dirt bike...no problems...other than short chain life.

I'm not posting this to try to convince anyone to run or not run whatever link they feel they need to. These are just my experiences over time for whatever it's worth...probably not even 2 cents in today's market.
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Old 03-18-2011, 05:53 AM   #12
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if your not dragracing in unlimited class, clip-style is much better for adventurists
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:03 AM   #13
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if your not dragracing in unlimited class, clip-style is much better for adventurists
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I've never had a failure with the clip style master link either.
I think people that do either tweak the clip or don't get it seated properly or install it backwards.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:11 AM   #15
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I've never had a failure with the clip style master link either.
I think people that do either tweak the clip or don't get it seated properly or install it backwards.
Both my clip failures were with correctly fitted and orientated clips on pretty well maintained chains. The XR is not known for it's huge power so that's hardly the cause. I wonder if the slider block was slightly mis-aligned and it just eventually knocked the clip off
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