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Old 12-09-2014, 07:59 AM   #1
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Anyone own one and can give us an evaluation?
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:38 AM   #2
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Specs and a few reviews here:

http://motoajp.com/

Forum:

http://motosportz.com/AJPforum/index.php

And of course, my web page:

http://rickramsey.net/PR4.htm



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Old 12-09-2014, 02:44 PM   #3
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Old 12-09-2014, 02:47 PM   #4
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:24 PM   #5
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:46 PM   #6
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Specs and a few reviews here:

http://motoajp.com/

Forum:

http://motosportz.com/AJPforum/index.php

And of course, my web page:

http://rickramsey.net/PR4.htm


Are you buying one from Scott? He used to be my Beta dealer, but dropped them for AJP. Heh, I still like him, though.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:24 PM   #7
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I have one - A 2013 PR4 200 and so far I'm really liking it.

I bought it to use as a bit of an all rounder (odd enduro, bit of light travelling and an ocasional commute), and to reduce the amount of abuse my XR 200 gets if we ride modern bike events (that's mine nose to nose with my AJP on Rick's site )

So far, all I've done is a few laps round a H&H course on it, but it seems to be well put together, less cramped than the XR and handles very, very well.

The airbox is where the fuel tank would be on a normal bike so you get a bit of induction noise when riding, but even with the race exhaust fitted it's still fairly quiet.

It's hard to be sure, but I'd say it makes it's power a little higher up the rev range than the XR, but it does feel a little more lively than the XR too (but there is 31 years between the two). Hopefully I'll get to ride the two of them back to back soon. It would be interesting to see how much different the 240 feels to the 200 too.

The standard seat is very firm, I think for any sort of travelling, I might have to look at some sort of extra cushioning.

The only thing I really don't like so far is the rear brake pedal and as far as I know it's only relevant to the PR3 nd PR4. It's a very snug fit and, for me, sits too low, but can't be adjusted much because of how it fouls on the underside of casing near the kickstart. I'm told there's an updated one being developed by the factory, but I'm hoping with a little bit of grinding, I can make it work ok.

Bearing in mind it cost me less than a 10 year old "proper" enduro bike, I can live with a few little quirks.
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:27 PM   #8
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The 2015s are here (in the US):

https://www.facebook.com/pages/AJP-M...4493?ref=hl%22


My 2015 PR4 is on its way to me...



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Old 01-17-2015, 06:35 AM   #9
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ramz: how did you get your hands on one? Looks like a CRF230 engine play bike?
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:44 AM   #10
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I see there is a 2015 3.5
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:26 AM   #11
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There are not a lot of AJP dealers in the US - maybe a dozen. The closest to me is in Phoenix and is just getting started. I know Kelly, the dealer in Vancouver, who I used to buy TE610 and TE310 Husky aftermarket parts from, and he helped set up the sale and drop ship. Scott, the importer in Vermont, went the extra mile and completed the deal. Both of these guys were great to deal with.

The picture of the 2015 PR4 was taken in Vermont; my PR4 is still on a truck heading this way. I should see it sometime in the next two weeks.

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Looks like a CRF230 engine play bike?
The PR4 has much better suspension than the 230F and a modern frame and ergos, so I expect it will surpass the 230F in many ways. The 230F has a 223cc engine (stock) whereas the PR4 has a 233cc engine (stock). The PR4 fuel tank is located under the seat, so the bike should be very 'flickable'.

I'm like a kid waitin for XMAS...


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The truck with my PR4 on board left Cleveland, OH a little after midnight EST, Tuesday morning. With any luck and no interstate pileups, it should get to Colorado by early Thursday.


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Old 01-25-2015, 07:09 AM   #12
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ok ramz...where are the PR4 pics?

Any thoughts on how it rides?

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Old 01-25-2015, 07:44 AM   #13
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Peektures here:

http://rickramsey.net/PR4.htm

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Old 01-25-2015, 11:28 AM   #14
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So is this engine a Chinese 230 clone? Or something else?
Interesting mix of parts as you have quality Marzochi & Sachs suspension but a Deni? Pumper carb. Is that a Chinese carb? Why not a mikuni or Kevin with solid part supply?
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:40 PM   #15
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Just arrived!!! 2015 AJP PR3 240 Ultrapassar (spec explained later in the post)



So after the Ossa Explorer didn't work out(TL;DR seized), this is what my father has ended up with.


It's a 2015 AJP PR3 240 Ultrapassar. British spec bike, first one ever imported into the states. In fact, the US importer didn't even know he could import this specific spec (normal US model is the PR3 Enduro) until I randomly noticed it on the UK site, told my dad, who asked him, they looked into it, low and behold they could.

This is what the importer is now calling the PR3.5 Enduro Pro for the states, but that one comes with different tires (non-trials)


This is their smallest model, the PR3, but the ultrapassar spec, for "long distance trials riding" as the brits put it, has the PR4 swing arm to fit the full 18inch rear wheel, 21inch front wheel, and better suspension front and rear than the standard US PR3 enduro spec which was the normal one brought into the states (had 19/17 wheels). All together MUCH nicer bike than the normal PR3 Enduro. Basically just think of it as the PR4 but with the PR3 frame.

Specs:

-Engine is a honda XR clone, electric start(and kick) 5 speed. Super reliable, easy to work on.
-Just 220pounds dry even with lights and electric start
-Just 33-34ishinch seat height
-21/18 wheels with Perrelli MT43 trials tires
-Roughly 11inches of travel in the front suspension
-Fully wired for turnsignals and everything for street


Not quite set up yet, it was just dropped off and the guy is gonna come back and finish it with my dad. Switching it to a lithium battery, etc. The dealer guy who rides a LOT of trials type bikes actually says he likes this thing better than the Ossa Explorer now that he's spent some time on his. That's saying a lot because the Explorer is bloody fantastic (when running...).

I think he'll need to add a spark arrestor

Here's a video if it in action i found on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjsSjK8lIEo



Rick, i've got a 1991 XR250L (though mine's japanese spec, full lights but no battery, kickstart only no e-start) at school with me, and you're basically the bible for these, so thanks for your website, it's been awesome. I can't wait to see how you like your AJP and what you end up doing with it. I'm sure a lot of mods will carry over to the PR3 as well. Please do post up what you end up doing for a spark arrestor, I saw you mention that on your website for the PR4.
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