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Old 02-16-2011, 08:20 AM   #19861
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I noticed a big difference in noise from the PC4 to the Q4 when I switched mufflers. The PC4 was annoyingly loud, the Q4 is much more acceptable. I'm sure neither is as quiet as the stock muffler.

Good luck on your trip, I have one scheduled to Colorado in July.
Anybody know how the sound level of the Dr D (Doug Dubach) exhaust compares to the FMF PC4 and Q4? I like how you can attach the factory plastic muffler guard to the Dr D exhaust.
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:29 AM   #19862
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So you're saying that maybe . . . just maybe . . . the powercore 4 is a little loud?



Who would have thunk it?
I'm saying both are annoyingly loud, compared to stock. Its still my opinion that the mb +pc4 combo is not louder than the q4 alone.
Aren't you running a nodded stock pipe yourself? ;)

10cup - thats what I was running prior, just a Q4 on the stock header. Haven't noticed a difference in mileage, still in the low 50's according to the stock odo.
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:36 AM   #19863
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OK need help figuring out what is going on here. Spent the evening hooking up my heated grips and LED indicators for them. For reference I have the Symantec heaters from Dual Star withe the round rocker switch and LED's that go in my HDB top clamp.
My goal was to have one LED come on when the grips are on Low and a different LED come on when the grips are on high.
Below is my very crude(sorry made it in about 3 minutes) drawing of how i wired it up.

No here is where I am confused. Both LED's light up when in Low or High.
Neither light up when switch is off and the heaters work appropriatley(off when off, and low and high settings)

So how/why is that happening? I am new to LED's but thought I had it figured out.
What’s happening is the 12v is back feeding through the heaters. When on low the power only flows through half the heater even though the whole heater is energized. On high the whole heater is energized including the low section.
You can put diodes in on the lines feeding the heaters to prevent the back feed. You will need them rated for at least 3 amps (Heaters = 36 watts @ 12vdc = 3 amps) and you can get them at Radio Shack.
Here's my crude drawing.


Info on Doides http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/diode.htm
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:43 AM   #19864
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What’s happening is the 12v is back feeding through the heaters. When on low the power only flows through half the heater even though the whole heater is energized. On high the whole heater is energized including the low section.
You can put diodes in on the lines feeding the heaters to prevent the back feed. You will need them rated for at least 3 amps (Heaters = 36 watts @ 12vdc = 3 amps) and you can get them at Radio Shack.
Here's my crude drawing.


Info on Doides http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/diode.htm
OK. I was assuming it was some sort of backfeed like that but just wasnt sure.
I may look into the resistors at some point but for now I think Ill just disconnect one of the LED's. Not that big a deal since my rocker switch is labeled. Just thoght I would do it sincd I had the LED's.

Thanks for the help
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:52 PM   #19865
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Ceebaileys WR Screen

I just ordered a Cee-Bailey fly screen for my wr.
http://www.ceebaileys.com/yamaha/yamaha_wr250_450.html

Scroll down to the wr250 image. It doesn't distinguish from the wr250f, but looking at the image; the headlamp/number plate looks exactly like mine, so I took a risk and bought it. They had a 15% promotion going on their website...

I figure it's only a slight upgrade to the $10 Harbor Freight option. I just wanted a little more screen and I didn't think velcro was the answer for attaching it. At the other end of the screen range, I didn't want to bolt more screen support stuff to my handlebar or T-clamp. We'll see.

BTW, my Wolfman racks installed well, but I had to mount the right side footpeg bracket inside the rack, rather than outside as instructed. The reason was because the muffler bolt interfered. There were two 'washers' leftover, and now I am thinking they were intended to create the clearance needed. So my critique is that the instructions were lame.

Really elegant product, though. Packed for the road in a trial mounting, the Wolfman bags are a bit fiddly at first, but after a few try's it works like the video. Lots of moving parts, but that's what the soft bag option requires! Pretty slick in my view. In fact, the team who designed that little mounting gizmo were genious...The proof will be when I'm on the road and camping. Everybody knows the worst part of the day is trying to get the gear back on the bike for the dark thirty roll.

This is fun stuff!

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Old 02-16-2011, 05:29 PM   #19866
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.....BTW, my Wolfman racks installed well, but I had to mount the right side footpeg bracket inside the rack, rather than outside as instructed. The reason was because the muffler bolt interfered. There were two 'washers' leftover, and now I am thinking they were intended to create the clearance needed. So my critique is that the instructions were lame.......P
While I love every Wolfman product I own (tank, saddle, tool and bottle bags), and their customer service was awesome when I tore a whole in the saddlebags and they sent me material to repair it for free. The only area I have been disappointed with Wolfman is their instructions. Not that they aren't clear, but the actual instructions were only black and white, pics were grainy, and it looked like had been copied a million times.

Contrast that with Sandman's (Ivan Sandoval's) instructions that he includes for the Acerbis front disc guard. Well written, clear, color pictures, torque specs, tools required, etc.

Again, I love Wolfman products and pimp them whenever I can, but....
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:58 PM   #19867
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another option that might work is the dr/drz one.
it has a lower air intake for laminar airflow and potential less buffeting
http://www.ceebaileys.com/suzuki/dr650z400ws.html

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I just ordered a Cee-Bailey fly screen for my wr.
http://www.ceebaileys.com/yamaha/yamaha_wr250_450.html

Scroll down to the wr250 image. It doesn't distinguish from the wr250f, but looking at the image; the headlamp/number plate looks exactly like mine, so I took a risk and bought it. They had a 15% promotion going on their website...

I figure it's only a slight upgrade to the $10 Harbor Freight option. I just wanted a little more screen and I didn't think velcro was the answer for attaching it. At the other end of the screen range, I didn't want to bolt more screen support stuff to my handlebar or T-clamp. We'll see.

BTW, my Wolfman racks installed well, but I had to mount the right side footpeg bracket inside the rack, rather than outside as instructed. The reason was because the muffler bolt interfered. There were two 'washers' leftover, and now I am thinking they were intended to create the clearance needed. So my critique is that the instructions were lame.

Really elegant product, though. Packed for the road in a trial mounting, the Wolfman bags are a bit fiddly at first, but after a few try's it works like the video. Lots of moving parts, but that's what the soft bag option requires! Pretty slick in my view. In fact, the team who designed that little mounting gizmo were genious...The proof will be when I'm on the road and camping. Everybody knows the worst part of the day is trying to get the gear back on the bike for the dark thirty roll.

This is fun stuff!

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Old 02-16-2011, 07:07 PM   #19868
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Wow,

I just got home from stopping by our local Yamaha dealership.

Our Ex-local Yamaha dealership.

They dropped the Yamaha line a week or so ago due to poor sales.

BMW now only.

I talked to the guy I know there for about an hour. He said that
the Yamaha cruiser bikes just would not move. No midsize bikes
in the 400 - 600cc range offered and the smaller bikes which he
said were selling he could not get a steady inventory of.

That sucks...
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Old 02-16-2011, 07:32 PM   #19869
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Hate to see that. Another reason to support your local dealership, even if it means spending a hundy or two more on a bike deal which, in the big picture, isn't really all that much. The alternative is they fade away.
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:30 PM   #19870
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that's the BIG problem with the big 4 japanese, they are too heavily dependant on cruiser sales.

the cruiser segment was full of over-leveraged weekend warriors with all the toys. they're toast. with the current state of things not getting any better and the cruiser crowd's financial ability in the dumps, the japanese need to revamp their lineup quickly.

the bmw guys are from a much higher tax bracket and even though they lost some net worth (but their stocks have been soaring lately) they still have $ to spend. the japanese cruiser guy...not so rich and selling everything they own to stay afloat and not loose their house.

why are dual-sports and scooters selling? they are usefull/practical machine to own vrs a weekend toy.

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Wow,

I just got home from stopping by our local Yamaha dealership.

Our Ex-local Yamaha dealership.

They dropped the Yamaha line a week or so ago due to poor sales.

BMW now only.

I talked to the guy I know there for about an hour. He said that
the Yamaha cruiser bikes just would not move. No midsize bikes
in the 400 - 600cc range offered and the smaller bikes which he
said were selling he could not get a steady inventory of.

That sucks...
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:33 PM   #19871
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Hate to see that. Another reason to support your local dealership, even if it means spending a hundy or two more on a bike deal which, in the big picture, isn't really all that much. The alternative is they fade away.
i can't tell you how many shops i've tried to visit on my list of shops in the area to have them look at our maps only for them to be out of biz. i could also sense the shops that were open but on life support. yes the bmw shops had the most activity, excitement, customers and knowledgeable/professional staff.
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Old 02-17-2011, 04:07 AM   #19872
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i can't tell you how many shops i've tried to visit on my list of shops in the area to have them look at our maps only for them to be out of biz. i could also sense the shops that were open but on life support. yes the bmw shops had the most activity, excitement, customers and knowledgeable/professional staff.
Pretty hard to make a decent living owning a BMW only store. The sales volume isn't enough. I am pretty sure there is only one single brand BMW dealer in all of New England.

To make any money you have to roll 60-100 bikes a month, not a year. You probably need to own your facilties free and clear as well, and have a dynamic service department. Around these parts, many of the multi-brand dealers were the result of consolidations over the last 15 years during which the old owners sold the business and leased their facilties to the buyers. Some of those consolidations failed as sales were not enough to cover occupancy costs.

Regarding the Japanese brands, I think they used to live off the dual sport and minicycle recreational market. Notsomuch anymore with the decline in areas to ride.
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:25 AM   #19873
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Az: sheeps bridge ride report

Here's a link to a ride we did Tuesday.. a beautiful Az day! We even got a little hot once we got down to the river.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=660706

I've got the gps tracks attached to one of my posts, if anyone is interested.

My still camera is broken, so all i had was video.. i didn't want to take my full size camera on this grueling of a ride.

I had a nice drop on the downhill section after the bridge crossing.

I have a couple more vids to upload to complete the report.. Tom had all the stills. Kim has a nice olympus compact camera.. but he never brings it...

Tom got a slipper clutch in his honda, so left his poor wrr at home. He's planning on getting one for the yamaha, so he can post his exploits on this thread..

I'm going to add another prop for the wr250, since i saw a little frenzy of posting about it a few pages back. What did it do on this ride?

Over 130 miles of winding dirt roads, a narrow bridge crossing, a steep, rocky descent with a vicious crash at the end. Pick it up & keep riding through boulders, sand, & rutted out washes. Cross a narrow dam spillway (no water this time). Then over 20 miles of loose sandy road; wide, but winding & treacherous. Next, back on the slab to a cave creek hot spot, the Horny Toad, where we were treated like celebrities... because of the wrx, i'm sure. Then with full stomachs, we go down a powerline road where we encounter the mosts technical terrain of the day. Steep, loose & rocky.. typical powerline road. We then hop on the freeway & I have to go over 80 to catch up with the guys. We exit & get back on the dirt.

When i get home, i notice that several teeth are broken on my front sprocket. I've been meaning to change the chain & sprockets, but have procrastinated. I definitely need to now. But this bike is awesome. I seldom wash it. I change the oil & clean the air filter. My back tire has over 6k miles on it & has tread left. I get over 60 mpg regularly. never under 50, some times 70. It has all the power i need in any offroad situation, yet will cruise on the freeway for hours at 80+ if i want to. I've ridden lots of bikes, but this one fit me & my riding style. I could get a different bike.. or a more expensive bike... or a bigger bike.. but why downgrade? For me, the wr250x is top of the line.

Versatile, reliable, optimal, offroad, manageable. VROOM!
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Old 02-17-2011, 06:02 AM   #19874
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While I love every Wolfman product I own (tank, saddle, tool and bottle bags), and their customer service was awesome when I tore a whole in the saddlebags and they sent me material to repair it for free. The only area I have been disappointed with Wolfman is their instructions. Not that they aren't clear, but the actual instructions were only black and white, pics were grainy, and it looked like had been copied a million times.

Contrast that with Sandman's (Ivan Sandoval's) instructions that he includes for the Acerbis front disc guard. Well written, clear, color pictures, torque specs, tools required, etc.

Again, I love Wolfman products and pimp them whenever I can, but....
Who needs manuals when they have those great installation videos on youtube?
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Old 02-17-2011, 06:15 AM   #19875
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Who needs manuals when they have those great installation videos on youtube?
Rob,

I agree, but I'm not talking about not being able to figure out how to install the damn things.

Rather I was only speaking about good customer service and your business reputation. Why go to the trouble of even writing up instructions if your going to do a craptacular job when everything else your company does is top notch. If you use your line of reasoning, since they have the videos (and I've watched them all, even for things I haven't bought), why include printed instructions?

If your business is going to do something, don't do it half-assed is all I'm saying.

That being said, its a moot point as they have updated all their install instructions with new, well written color ones recently. Good to see!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled broadcast.....

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