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Old 06-24-2012, 03:07 PM   #29311
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HEY AGAIN GUYS, WHAT SPROCKET COMBO ARE YOU USING WITH AN MT 43 ON THE REAR. I KNOW THE PROFILE ON THIS TIRE IS TALLER. LOOKING FOR THE PURE DUAL-SPORT COMBO AND GOTTA BE ABLE TO DO SEVERAL HOURS OF 70MPH MAX (TA KEEP UP WITH THE BIG BIKES ON THE SLAB).
LOOKING AT THAT SIDE WINDER SPROCKET AND CHAIN SET-UP. IT AINT CHEAP! GOTTA GET IT RIGHT FIRST TIME.
P.S. 70 MPH MAX COMFORTABLY, BUT NO MORE. STILL WANT THAT LOW, BACK-COUNTRY LOVE GEAR!
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:33 PM   #29312
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13/47 gearing with a 112L chain (need the length for tire clearance). Don't bother with sidewinder just get good steel sprockets and a quality x-ring chain if you want something that lasts.

Also pls turn your caps lock off, its considered shouting and rude on the internet.
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:35 PM   #29313
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Fresh Paint on the Hotel? How many came this year?

About 300 total, but only 3 small bikes... two wr250x's and one r. everything else was 650+ except one or two drz400s's
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:10 PM   #29314
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Thanks Skierd, sorry bout the cap lock. Glad to hear on the side winder. Man are they spendy. I think you saved me a few hundred$.
As for the MT 43's for typical dual-sporting. Is 3000 miles average for a rear?
Thanks again guys
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:13 PM   #29315
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Thanks Skierd, sorry bout the cap lock. Glad to hear on the side winder. Man are they spendy. I think you saved me a few hundred$.
As for the MT 43's for typical dual-sporting. Is 3000 miles average for a rear?
Thanks again guys
I use 13/45 but either that or 13/47 would work I would imagine. 13/45 would use a 110 link chain BTW.
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:24 PM   #29316
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I have always looked at that side of the Flatland's as the weak point. Thinking "but what is the chance of that..?" Seems you answered that question. You hit the achilles heel!

Were you able to motor home or did you end up broken down?
i motored for a bit until i realized all of the coolant was gone. at that point i pushed the bike for about a mile, then a kind soul stopped and loaded me + the bike up in their truck for a ride back in to town.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:14 PM   #29317
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+1 on the 13/47. Several guys are running 14/50 (close to the 13/47) and then dropping to a 13/50 for heavy off road. I can easily run a true 90mph with the 13/47. My first MT-43 ran 3k (could have run further but it was getting a bit sketchy in any kind of mud)
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:55 PM   #29318
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13/47 gearing with a 112L chain (need the length for tire clearance). Don't bother with sidewinder just get good steel sprockets and a quality x-ring chain if you want something that lasts.
+1

Rocky Mountain ATV is where I get my stuff after these guys led me to it--Primary Drive is their brand.

I got that right?
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:45 PM   #29319
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sunning a 13/49 really happy with it, I have axel blocks so I can switch around real easy.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:53 PM   #29320
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I'm running 12/50 Primary Drive chain and sprockets with a MT16 rear. 70mph isn't a problem and first is finally low enough to grunt around like I want when needed. Bike tops out around 80mph.

Worked just fine at the dual sport ride this weekend

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Old 06-24-2012, 09:38 PM   #29321
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A few shots from camping/riding this weekend

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Old 06-25-2012, 12:46 AM   #29322
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More pictures of the girl, less of the trees and rocks and shit.
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:06 AM   #29323
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WOW!!! Now that is some low gearing!!

Right at this moment I am changing over to a 13/47 combo. I kinda wish I had have gone with a 14/50 or something now so I can go down to a 13T for harder riding and still have no fear of the dreaded swingarm eating as has started on mine from running the 12T front.


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I'm running 12/50 Primary Drive chain and sprockets with a MT16 rear. 70mph isn't a problem and first is finally low enough to grunt around like I want when needed. Bike tops out around 80mph.

Worked just fine at the dual sport ride this weekend
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:46 AM   #29324
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I am debating what to replace the OEM Trailwings with (3,500 km). List I am considering so far:

MT-21 F / MT-43 rear
MT-21 F / T-63 rear
MT-21 F / D606 rear

Alternative front for all of the above is the Pirelli Scorpion Pro, looks good and lots of folks like them, but I have never used one, and I have run the MT-21 of a DR650 and liked it.

I run lots of street, but care much more about off-road performance; we have a lot of loose sand on the local trails.

If I can get 5,000 km /3,000 miles I'd be satisfied.

I'm running 12-43 now, plan to go to 13-48 when I can afford to. I like the 12 but it makes me nervous with the chain slider / swingarm wear issue.

I like most of what I've read about the MT-43. I know Skierd had less than stellar results with them, Crawdaddy seems to like them. I want to try one on the rear, but I do care about getting decent amount of road mileage since the WRR is so OK there, and since it take some time to get past the city around here.

Gearing is currently -1 on the front, but I plan to go back to the 13T (swingarm / chain-slider paranoia), and up to 47 or 48 on the rear (as much as the stock chain will allow).

Feedback welcome, as always here.
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Old 06-25-2012, 04:41 AM   #29325
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I am running an MT-43 right now on stock gearing. It was given to me used and half worn when I got it. I have put about 1500 miles on it and you can see in this pic I took Saturday it's finally getting pretty low.



I really like this tire. Our local trails were pretty dry but had a few mud holes and one hill climb was really slick from run-off of an old spring. I was able to handle them without issue but the D606 on my wife's DR200 was really sketchy and she didn't make the climb. I thought maybe it was her inexperience because I know the 606 is great tire, but when I rode her bike when she got stuck, it was definitely the tire was not hooking up as well. Her tire is much better in gravel than my trials tire, but if the trails get slick at all the trials tire outperformed it. It my opinion anyway. Deep mud I am sure the 606 is better though, but we don't ride that often.
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