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Old 07-04-2012, 09:39 AM   #29491
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Ok....now that the shock has set it, let's break it down Bill.

2) Change your oil....as has been mentioned. But, maybe...possibly not like you're thinking.

Let's try again: CHANGE YOUR OIL type/brand. What have you been running in your motor? Be very specific.

All motor oils have additives. Its how they are made. Ask me how I know.

Some things can cause the friction plate material to swell. Just enough to cause the symptom you are describing.

Switching to a different oil without such additive (sometimes unknown type) can help the material go back to normal. This doesn't happen immediately. So, be patient and see if things get better over time.
Thx a ton HF for sharing your wisdom here! Let me tell you, you just caused me to remember that before my ride down to Mississippi (and how come you weren't there??), I CHANGED my oil in both ways.. fresh oil and different brand. I went from the blue bottle at Walmart to Castrol GTX. Running the blue I never noticed this issue and I also noticed during my last ride neutral gave me fits here and there. Not too alarming but enough that I noticed.

Now, would you suggest I switch back or change the oil and put another dose of Castrol in?

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5) Testing your clutch creep on an elevated stand (off the floor) is not a valid measurement. Many bikes will encounter wheel creep that way. It is not a reliable indicator of anything. There is often enough friction in even the oil itself, to allow the tranny to creep without any significant load. This would depend upon many things....viscosity, shear, friction plates spacing, chain condition (dry & stiff or lubed and relaxed), etc.

Once you put the bike on the ground under its own weight, plus the rider, that's usually causes enough resistance to break the engagement and stop the creep. So, always base your evaluation on how it FEELS to you when sitting on it with the engine running, and in gear. How does it react and feel while you are riding....particularly in slow speed, tight turns where you are slipping the clutch in and out. Is the engagement predictable and desireable. If its not working right under load, THEN you have a problem developing. A slight, faint tug while sitting stopped, is not necessarily any concern unless other bad behaviors are appearing that affect your riding.
My bike definitely still reacts/feels fine when I'm riding, no issues at all, that's why I kinda thought it could be typical or somewhat normal. I know other bikes I've had, some would "creep" more than others. My Versys is smooth as butter, I'm running Castrol in it as well, it's a larger bike so its not a comparison really.

Hope this gives more insight ... glad you mentioned the oil, I forgot I switched ?!?!

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Old 07-04-2012, 12:42 PM   #29492
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Hey that's pretty cool. That XT250 needs a red frame and gold rims to complete the look.
Too bad about plastic tanks though. I always hated that.
Would work on a stock tanks though.
Where to find a white plastic set....
Pretty sure the 2010 WR250X came with white plastics, or some of them did.

Or - http://www.wheelingcyclesupply.com/shop/1/4/index.shtml
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:18 PM   #29493
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Anyone got a pic of what this area is supposed to look like before I get out the tin snips and pop rivet gun?? No way I'm replacing the whole airbox.
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:42 PM   #29494
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Anyone got a pic of what this area is supposed to look like before I get out the tin snips and pop rivet gun?? No way I'm replacing the whole airbox.
Going out to the garage to get you a picture.

Should be on here by 4 PM CST.



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Old 07-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #29495
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Ok, got you some pictures:









Looks about like yours, except worse. Now I gotta go back out there and see what's going on in that lower right corner.
Hope these help.



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Old 07-04-2012, 02:21 PM   #29496
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So, I just installed a Zeta 3-finger brake lever. I'm already annoyed with myself because I didn't realize that Wheeling had 3-finger DRC levers for $40 less until after I ordered the Zeta. Anyway, the rubber bootie from the OEM lever doesn't really come close to fitting on the Zeta. Are there other booties that fit? Should I just cut down the original one so it kind of fits? Should I just not care and go without the rubber?
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:25 PM   #29497
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Hey thanks Bill! Very kind.
So is yours broke too? What's with the 2 little empty holes in the mud flap bracket?
Kinda feels weak and unsupported like something is missing.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:29 PM   #29498
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I just went out and looked up my WR's skirt. No idea what the two empty bolt holes on the tab are for. Maybe they designed a pipe hanger there and changed their minds. The right corner looking from the back on mine is silver heat tape shielding. Otherwise, its the same as both pics - except clean.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:34 PM   #29499
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I just went out and looked up my WR's skirt. No idea what the two empty bolt holes on the tab are for. Maybe they designed a pipe hanger there and changed their minds. The right corner looking from the back on mine is silver heat tape shielding. Otherwise, its the same as both pics - except clean.
Mine looks the same............ Maybe plastic spot welds of a sort??
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:41 PM   #29500
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I just went out and looked up my WR's skirt. No idea what the two empty bolt holes on the tab are for. Maybe they designed a pipe hanger there and changed their minds. The right corner looking from the back on mine is silver heat tape shielding. Otherwise, its the same as both pics - except clean.

Hey, maybe I spend too much time riding, don't have time to clean under there?



Been cleaned so much in the past there is only a bit of that tape on the right corner. Inspected from the inside the air box has no place for a leak there.

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Old 07-04-2012, 02:43 PM   #29501
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Huh...

The xup cables are right there too. That whole area just packs with mud.
I'm going to make a bracket/guard. Lemme think on it a bit.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:45 PM   #29502
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Hey, maybe I spend too much time riding, don't have time to clean under there?





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You said it Bill! I thought mine was pretty clean compared to how it normally looks.
I bet yours is too.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:48 PM   #29503
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Now I gotta go back out there and see what's going on in that lower right corner.
Mouse nest?

Mine has the same two holes and silver heat tape where you've got twigs or something. But the plastic under there is solid, and mine's fairly new (6,000 km and 6 months) so I think they have no use.
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:05 PM   #29504
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Just wondering..I have a 40 mile ride to work (30 of it highway). Will the WR250R go 70 or is it pretty much topped out with the stock gearing? Thanks
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:16 PM   #29505
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Hey, maybe I spend too much time riding, don't have time to clean under there?



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I went with a non-sealed chain for max performance. Downside is if you don't keep it clean it is toast. My bike actually just returned from a mud facial at our single-track spa. So there, mister smarty-pants. Nya ni na na.
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