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Old 08-01-2012, 05:28 AM   #29836
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So I saw the ad in Motorcyclist, Honda CFR250L, ~$4600?? Wow....that is pretty cheap for a bike that is supposed to be competition for the WRR/X.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:35 AM   #29837
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So I saw the ad in Motorcyclist, Honda CFR250L, ~$4600?? Wow....that is pretty cheap for a bike that is supposed to be competition for the WRR/X.
If you check it out it does not compete with the WR. More like a KLX or DRZ.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:43 AM   #29838
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So I saw the ad in Motorcyclist, Honda CFR250L, ~$4600?? Wow....that is pretty cheap for a bike that is supposed to be competition for the WRR/X.
Check out the weight of the CRF....
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:56 AM   #29839
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If you check it out it does not compete with the WR. More like a KLX or DRZ.
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Check out the weight of the CRF....
I did not see any spec, just an ad. Is it heavy??

My ( kicker) DRZ 400 was only 302 lbs, and my WRR is 299 lbs, both outfitted with same farkles, BB's, skid plate, etc.

I like both bikes, but still miss the grunt the DRZ 400 had. If the WRR had same grunt, it would really be perfect.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:47 AM   #29840
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I think the CRF250L will be close enough to the WRR performance that I decided to switch. I expect to be riding my new CRF250L in about 3 weeks time.
http://rickramsey.net/CRF250L.htm
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http://rickramsey.net/WR250RvsCRF250L.htm
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:50 AM   #29841
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Check out the weight of the CRF....

curb weight: 147 kilograms/324 lbs
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:09 AM   #29842
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I think the CRF250L will be close enough to the WRR performance that I decided to switch. I expect to be riding my new CRF250L in about 3 weeks time.
http://rickramsey.net/CRF250L.htm
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http://rickramsey.net/WR250RvsCRF250L.htm
Good luck with new bike. Looks to be a direct creation to compete with WRR/X.

I wonder if the Honda rear shock will suck in the whoops too.

317 lbs, almost identical displacement, and lower compression....Honda has to be down on power to the WRR, I would suspect.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:36 AM   #29843
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Honda has to be down on power to the WRR, I would suspect.
The CRF250L uses the CBR250R engine. There has been some considerable hop-up R&D on that engine in racing groups (US, Thailand, Japan) and I expect many of the mods will cross over. I don't want top-end-of-the-HP-curve mods cause I'm not road racing, but I expect there will be a mod or two that will get me some low-end torque (muffler changes, decat, FI tuning to name a few that I've seen).
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:42 AM   #29844
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The only thing about the new CRF250L that appeals to me is the lower seat height. I am very happy with my WRR other than I wish it was a lower lower stock without having ot mod it to get it a height I like .
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:51 AM   #29845
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Speaking of height. I realized on a ride this past weekend, that I really tip-toe on my bike, when coming to a stop on any hard surface. Usually I do not notice it, since we ride a lot of sand and bike sinks in. BUT, we also have been doing a lot of down logs crossings too, and the added ground clearance is a blessing there.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:57 AM   #29846
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Yeah there are a lot of tree down where I ride too from spring storms. It is definitely nice to be able to get over them without getting hung up. It sucks though when you come to stop and you are on tip toes and put your foot in something slippery. Being flatfoot on the street is nice. But instead of trying to lower the suspension I think I am just going to buy some SM wheels for street and then I can leave it as is for dirt. That will also allow me to not have to compromise on tires. I can run street tires on the street and dirt tires off-road and no settling for a dual sport tire. By spring I hope to have that setup.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:12 AM   #29847
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Good luck with new bike. Looks to be a direct creation to compete with WRR/X.

I wonder if the Honda rear shock will suck in the whoops too.

317 lbs, almost identical displacement, and lower compression....Honda has to be down on power to the WRR, I would suspect.

The front forks on the new Honda are interesting too. One leg handles all the compression. The other all of
the rebound.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:55 AM   #29848
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I was looking to pick up a CRF250L here in Canada before I got my WR250R as I knew that dabbing on singletrack would only net me air at times. I'd be prepared to drop her gently at times though as a tradeoff for the added ground clearance. Having a relatively high WRR (to my 30" inseam) keeps me from running fast in corners as my noobish skills are still blooming.

Now I see on Honda Canada's website that the CRF250L will not be coming in all white in Canada... just the red/white combo.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:06 PM   #29849
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317 lbs, almost identical displacement, and lower compression....Honda has to be down on power to the WRR, I would suspect.
I read somewhere that the Honda feels almost as fast as the WRR in a buttdyno comparison. The KLX was noticeably slower than either the Honda or WRR.

Off topic, but I like the concept of that other new Honda... the NC700X
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #29850
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The front forks on the new Honda are interesting too. One leg handles all the compression. The other all of
the rebound.
Interesting idea...but not sure how well it will work. Sounds like a good way for works to constantly be tweaked in the rough stuff. But, maybe the jap engineers figured all that out.
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