Yamaha WR250R Mega Thread - Page 2162

Rapid Dog · 01-10-2013, 02:17 PM

...yeah, we're baggin' on it here at the WR sanctum.
I'm sure it's a fun little bike. Just ain't what some of us think it could be...

"Could it be that the return of the all-purpose motorcycle — one you can ride to, as well as through, the woods is returning? If so, Honda’s CRF250L should be at the head of the class"

not

skierd · 01-10-2013, 03:00 PM

Catch? There is no catch, except the extra weight and size of the tank.

I originally bought a Safari 3.7gal. I didn't like the added width between my knees, and I still don't like the idea of having a secondary fuel pump that could fail out in the middle of nowhere when you're counting on it. The main reason I sold it was it would take more gas than I'd want to carry as extra (more than 2 1L MSR bottles) to reprime the fuel lines in the wings should it run out.

I now have and have had the IMS 3.1 tank for 20k+ miles, one of the originals. I did have problems with fuel weeping around the pump gasket until I switched over to the big honkin' o-ring they supply now with the tanks. Otherwise, no issues at all. On the highway I have a solid 140-150 mile range, on back roads and trails where I get better mpg's its closer to 200 miles. The bottles, which live on top of my wolfman enduro saddlebags, give me an extra 20-40 miles. Same width as stock, in fact its hard to tell its even there. Thats plenty for exploring back east, and plenty for traveling all over unless you start getting really remote. For the Dalton I brought a 2gal gas can for example. Otherwise, I've only ever needed the bottles 2 or 3 times and usually only because I skipped a gas station for whatever reasons (87 only, line too long for 1 pump, etc).

If I lived in the southwest, where there could potentially be hundreds of miles without gas, I'd get the IMS 4.7gal without much hesitation. Might even still try to carry a rotopax, 1gal or 2gal, just to be able to get out and get really lost if I wanted to. Or stick with the 3.1 and a gas can.

GotMojo? · 01-10-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by swimmer

Judging by the CR250L thread it seems there are plenty of owners quite happy with the bike. Everyone has different budgets/desires etc... Seems like a nice enough bike to me all things considered. The guy that started the thread where he bought both a wr250r and a crf250l thought the honda actually looked better put together. Anyway to each their own.

Agreed. I've got a WR250R and an X, and just picked up a CRF250L. It was substantially cheaper, so my expecations are that it won't be on quite the same level as the R/X. I haven't taken delivery yet, but at some point I will provide some feedback on how they compare. Always gotta keep in mind though... I think the price difference is over $2000. That's alot of money for farkling and riding gear, and the riding experience might just be about the same for some people. Everybody's expectations and requirements are a little different.

30Bones · 01-10-2013, 05:08 PM

Thanks, I don't like taking fuel bottles. Just a hassle. I have strapped a gatorade bottle on once since I knew I was going to be pushing it from A-B years back. I have yet to buy the bike yet, just planning farkle priorities. Of course the most expensive 3.7 just seems ideal for what I am used to carrying on larger pigs. Maybe I need to get over that fact. I am buying this bike to slow down my pace and do more site seeing than blazing gravel.

avgas · 01-10-2013, 05:50 PM

I live in central Oregon, where gas stations can be scarce, and so far I've been fine with the stock gas tank. I do carry an extra liter or two in my wolfman saddlebags, just in case. I find that you can ride a long time on two gallons riding at a moderate pace offroad... unless your in deep sand, but in those conditions I wouldn't want a big heavy tank anyway. Point is, be honest about what you actually need.

jon_l · 01-10-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by swimmer

Judging by the CR250L thread it seems there are plenty of owners quite happy with the bike. Everyone has different budgets/desires etc... Seems like a nice enough bike to me all things considered. The guy that started the thread where he bought both a wr250r and a crf250l thought the honda actually looked better put together. Anyway to each their own.

Did you read the whole thread? I haven't been there for a while, but my recollection is the "I bought both" guy concluded that doesn't have much use for the Honda, but thinks it is a decent bike for a commuting or a girl-friend bike. Not saying it doesn't look useful. If gravel and pavement is the mission, I think it would be my 1st choice for cheap, reliable, dual sport. Adding in dirt, it looks like the WRR is much superior.

I think the best alternatives to the WRR for off-road dual-sport folks are the DR-Z400 for the budget-challenged, or 350/500 EXC for the better-funded folks.

burtonrider3889 · 01-10-2013, 06:14 PM

My take on the 250L VS the WR:

My cousin bought a new 250L while I still had my street bike. Riding his around the woods was the reason I sold my SV and got the WR. After doing research the WR always stood out as a much better bike. From riding both I would definitely agree. The Honda is still a great bike, and I'm sure in a couple years buying one used will be even sweeter. But what it really lacked to me was power. It didn't have enough Mmph for me to have fun flogging it on the street. In the dirt it was OK. Suspension seemed pretty good even though not adjustable. If you are short the Honda is much friendlier. I just lowered my front forks and stock rear shock last night and I am still pretty much on tippy toes at 5'10''. On the honda I can easily touch the balls of my feet down if not almost flat foot. Lastly, the kickstand on the honda comes down super easy so you have to watch out if you jump anything because it can flip down upon landing cutting off the bike and causing serious problems.

Rapid Dog · 01-10-2013, 07:13 PM

...one word...18HP...

burtonrider3889 · 01-10-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid Dog

...one word...18HP...

I'm pretty sure that's two words.

bash3r · 01-10-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahFox

Wowser, that's the WR that I have in my head - now there's a picture :) Nice bike! I don't suppose you have a list of what you've done to it?

Well, UtahFox.. pretty much everything I've done is on my website, basherdesigns.com, I have a list of farkles and pretty much all my DIY mods...

Hmm.. what to do this winter

bash3r · 01-10-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid Dog

...I had a chance to take a close look at one 'o them CRF250Leszz the other day.
It might be an O.K. starter bike but really...how disappointing.
It's really cheap-o looking. Welded on peg brackets, lacky fork, looks very Chinesey.
I'm embarrassed for Honda.
It is not a real moto like the WR.
Even the Honda parts guy told me it was just an excuse by Honda to get into the small dualsport market.
Shameful...

Anyone else see this months Rider Magazine.. they once again did a shootout with the WR250R, CRF250L, and the KLX250S... and this time ACTUALLY had a WR250R to ride!! Last time they didn't and still did a review.. lol Now I'm not sure about Rider Mag's "adventure" test riders.. sometimes they are a bit "wannabe" adventurers, but they still gave the win to the WR250R.. again!

bash3r · 01-10-2013, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotMojo?

Agreed. I've got a WR250R and an X, and just picked up a CRF250L. It was substantially cheaper, so my expecations are that it won't be on quite the same level as the R/X. I haven't taken delivery yet, but at some point I will provide some feedback on how they compare. Always gotta keep in mind though... I think the price difference is over $2000. That's alot of money for farkling and riding gear, and the riding experience might just be about the same for some people. Everybody's expectations and requirements are a little different.

I hear ya.... and I don't know what everyone else is paying.. but I paid $4600ish for my '08 WR250R brand new... so what's the CRF250L really selling at? I'd buy last yrs model of the WR before buying that little red baby bike

The WR hasn't changed hardly at all since '08 so a year older WR is still, in my opinion, a much better buy than the newer CRF if you find the right deal on the WR.... I test road the CRF250L.. and for a budget buyer its a decent bike and fun, but no WR.

But I'd ride one of those red ones if I had to.. I think I would...

Crawdaddy · 01-10-2013, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bash3r

Hmm.. what to do this winter

That's easy....fire'em up!

bash3r · 01-10-2013, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy

That's easy....fire'em up!

Yea easier for say than others!! Hey it was in the 50s this week!

r6realtor · 01-10-2013, 09:41 PM

My buddy just bought a crf250l, its actually a really decent bike especially for the price, we havent done any offroading with it only on road and dirt roads nothing crazy at all,the wr does seem quite a bit faster, he is roughly 150 pounds and im about 180 plus my gear and I can beat him about 5 car lengths, it has really good take off/low end but seems to die off in the higher rpm's. Im stock minus my smaller tire/wheels but I think a gear change and pipe for him would really wake it up,,,, I would certainly buy one, most likely not over my wr but its a great little bike in my opinion.

01-10-2013, 02:17 PM	#32416
Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,300	...yeah, we're baggin' on it here at the WR sanctum. I'm sure it's a fun little bike. Just ain't what some of us think it could be... "Could it be that the return of the all-purpose motorcycle — one you can ride to, as well as through, the woods is returning? If so, Honda’s CRF250L should be at the head of the class" not __________________ '08 R1200R / '10 WR290X/R '81 R100RS Rattlecandy Red '06 950 ADV Orangeboom '05 R12GS Wedding Bike '91 R100GSPD Derelict

01-10-2013, 03:00 PM	#32417
skierd Wannabe Far-Rider Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Fairbanks, AK Oddometer: 2,689	Catch? There is no catch, except the extra weight and size of the tank. I originally bought a Safari 3.7gal. I didn't like the added width between my knees, and I still don't like the idea of having a secondary fuel pump that could fail out in the middle of nowhere when you're counting on it. The main reason I sold it was it would take more gas than I'd want to carry as extra (more than 2 1L MSR bottles) to reprime the fuel lines in the wings should it run out. I now have and have had the IMS 3.1 tank for 20k+ miles, one of the originals. I did have problems with fuel weeping around the pump gasket until I switched over to the big honkin' o-ring they supply now with the tanks. Otherwise, no issues at all. On the highway I have a solid 140-150 mile range, on back roads and trails where I get better mpg's its closer to 200 miles. The bottles, which live on top of my wolfman enduro saddlebags, give me an extra 20-40 miles. Same width as stock, in fact its hard to tell its even there. Thats plenty for exploring back east, and plenty for traveling all over unless you start getting really remote. For the Dalton I brought a 2gal gas can for example. Otherwise, I've only ever needed the bottles 2 or 3 times and usually only because I skipped a gas station for whatever reasons (87 only, line too long for 1 pump, etc). If I lived in the southwest, where there could potentially be hundreds of miles without gas, I'd get the IMS 4.7gal without much hesitation. Might even still try to carry a rotopax, 1gal or 2gal, just to be able to get out and get really lost if I wanted to. Or stick with the 3.1 and a gas can. __________________ "We wish your trail a long one" - Darlene "Sid" Dowd ~ Never run out of traction, ideas, and real estate at the same time. 2008 Yamaha WR250X - 1998 Honda Nighthawk CB750 Eastern TAT 8/2009 ~MD-Key West-Oklahoma 4/2011~Maryland to Alaska 3/2012

01-10-2013, 05:08 PM	#32419
30Bones Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Marion, IA Oddometer: 4,572	Thanks, I don't like taking fuel bottles. Just a hassle. I have strapped a gatorade bottle on once since I knew I was going to be pushing it from A-B years back. I have yet to buy the bike yet, just planning farkle priorities. Of course the most expensive 3.7 just seems ideal for what I am used to carrying on larger pigs. Maybe I need to get over that fact. I am buying this bike to slow down my pace and do more site seeing than blazing gravel. __________________ Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

01-10-2013, 06:14 PM	#32422
burtonrider3889 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Oddometer: 321	My take on the 250L VS the WR: My cousin bought a new 250L while I still had my street bike. Riding his around the woods was the reason I sold my SV and got the WR. After doing research the WR always stood out as a much better bike. From riding both I would definitely agree. The Honda is still a great bike, and I'm sure in a couple years buying one used will be even sweeter. But what it really lacked to me was power. It didn't have enough Mmph for me to have fun flogging it on the street. In the dirt it was OK. Suspension seemed pretty good even though not adjustable. If you are short the Honda is much friendlier. I just lowered my front forks and stock rear shock last night and I am still pretty much on tippy toes at 5'10''. On the honda I can easily touch the balls of my feet down if not almost flat foot. Lastly, the kickstand on the honda comes down super easy so you have to watch out if you jump anything because it can flip down upon landing cutting off the bike and causing serious problems. __________________ 2012 WR250R 2007 SV650 1984 XL350R 2002 CR80R

01-10-2013, 07:13 PM	#32423
Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,300	...one word...18HP... __________________ '08 R1200R / '10 WR290X/R '81 R100RS Rattlecandy Red '06 950 ADV Orangeboom '05 R12GS Wedding Bike '91 R100GSPD Derelict

01-10-2013, 05:50 PM	#32420
avgas amateur Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Oddometer: 80	I live in central Oregon, where gas stations can be scarce, and so far I've been fine with the stock gas tank. I do carry an extra liter or two in my wolfman saddlebags, just in case. I find that you can ride a long time on two gallons riding at a moderate pace offroad... unless your in deep sand, but in those conditions I wouldn't want a big heavy tank anyway. Point is, be honest about what you actually need.

01-10-2013, 09:41 PM	#32430
r6realtor n00b Joined: Oct 2012 Oddometer: 6	My buddy just bought a crf250l, its actually a really decent bike especially for the price, we havent done any offroading with it only on road and dirt roads nothing crazy at all,the wr does seem quite a bit faster, he is roughly 150 pounds and im about 180 plus my gear and I can beat him about 5 car lengths, it has really good take off/low end but seems to die off in the higher rpm's. Im stock minus my smaller tire/wheels but I think a gear change and pipe for him would really wake it up,,,, I would certainly buy one, most likely not over my wr but its a great little bike in my opinion.

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