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Old 01-29-2013, 07:09 AM   #32791
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Is there any real difference between a F and a R? Besides electric start,street legal and F.I.
IOW, aren't the engines and chassis/suspension similar?
Not at all, something that lots of Yamaha salesmen in Yamaha dealerships still don't know due to the similar names (and because they haven't scrutinized the bikes, themselves).

It's along the lines of what other posters have written:

The WR-250F from 2002 is, basically, a 2002 YZ-250F (motocross bike) with lights, an 18" rear wheel, and a 3.2 gallon fuel tank.
This bike is MUCH better off-road because it has tighter gear ratios, is considerably lighter, has a bit more power across the board, and the suspension (particularly the rear) is quite a bit better.
I put it like this (because I've tried it):
A WR-250F with dual-purpose tires (the same ones that come on a WR-250R, in fact) still feels mucho better off-road than a WR-250R does even with the very best knobby tires mounted to it.
The better an off-road rider you are, the more this will feel to you.

For street use, the gearing is short, and the bike doesn't have a high top speed unless you literally rev it at redline down the road.
You can change the sprockets to gear it taller, but you hurt it's off-road gearing.
You can compromise, but it's still a compromise, especially if you ride in the woods.

The WR-250R was designed, I believe, as a street bike that can withstand lots and lots of street milage, meet all of the EPA regulations, and be ridden off-road in a reasonable manner.
The WR-250R is a MUCH better bike for street milage due to the engine being very smooth-running with very low vibration (which gives you the impression that it can withstand lots of highway and street usage for mile after mile), and because the gear ratios from the tranny and sprockets is pretty tall, allowing the bike to zip down the road with high-speed traffic you get these days.

Off -road, the bike feels like the typical dual-purpose bike that comes with second-rate suspension and is a bit overweight.
You can ride it practically anywhere, but the feel of the bike leaves much to be desired if you want a true dirt bike.
If you don't know any better, you may have nothing to complain about, and if you're expecting a pure dirt bike, you'll probably be in for a let-down.
It's just fine for recreational trail riding, and is what it's really intended for, just like any other Yamaha dual-purpose bike from day 1.
So, it really depends on you.

My advice with the WR-250R (and any bike you ride off-road):

Up the service intervals shown in the Owner's Manual when riding off-road.
Going 3,000 miles between oil changes and 6 months between servicing the air filter on a bike ridden in the dirt ain't good.

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:50 AM   #32792
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. I'm still thinking about the 13L hard cases at Happy Trails, but again, will probably go with soft panniers & a lockable topbox.



* pic from the Sibersky Extreme RR.
I actually bought the 33litre hard bags from Happytrails.... they are bigger than I thought they would be. But I like the rack that comes with it. I figure I can always take the hard bags off and throw soft bags over the racks to tie them to.

As for the picture .... where is the bike? LOL
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:09 PM   #32793
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>"Here we are last Feb out for a local back roads ride."

KansasBob... What windshield did you fit ? Any good ?
Man........ You take a couple of days off for a road trip, and you're 5 pages behind!

It's the TCI windshield and mounting system. I Love it. You can leave the mounts on and 4 plastic screws come off with a pocket screw driver. You can also mount a rack (purchased separately) that TCI makes. Only draw back is the mounting system uses the top trip tree mounts and the top set of handlebar bolts. You can't use it with trip tree mounted hand guards, bar risers, or fat bar adapters.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:17 PM   #32794
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Not sure if this helps:

I run a 48 tooth rear and 13 tooth front. According to my GPS I deduct 14.4% from the bike reading to get a true road speed/distance. At 100km/h indicated I am doing about 84km/h. (About 60mph gives about 51 mph)

Most of my riding is off road so this isnt an issue - when I am on the open road I have to be sitting on about 117km/h to be doing 100km/h. Result is that I am aware that I am running that much higher in revs. As far as 1st and 2nd gear is concerned I find that the gearing suits me fine in the hills that I ride in. Yes - they will be shorter - I think 2nd now is probably closer to first with standard gearing just based on feel.

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Since I am only planning on going up to a 46t, do you think that my 2nd gear will be as low as yours? Thanks.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:56 PM   #32795
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I prefere soft bags because they are a little lighter wight and give a little in crashes, although their contents cannot be brittle. I made my own saddle bags using truckers tarp (the v-18 vinyl) and have been happy with them. I just started using a $10 cycle gear tank bag as a tail bag also. together they will fit everything I need for adventure. I did have to add a brace on the right to keep em from floppin' and a pad to guard against exhaust heat. They have taken some hard spills and are totally waterproof. They are a pain to get stuff out of because of lack of organization
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:12 PM   #32796
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What's the consensus on skid plates? I live in Canada and the cheapest I can pick up is the Zeta skid plate... I have seen the zeta's, flatlands, moose... which should I go with?
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:18 PM   #32797
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Flatland. I have it and it has worked well for me so far, plus I'm in Cape Breton so similar terrain.

http://www.mx1canada.com/flatland-sk...wr-462445.html
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:26 PM   #32798
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What's the consensus on skid plates? I live in Canada and the cheapest I can pick up is the Zeta skid plate... I have seen the zeta's, flatlands, moose... which should I go with?
Here's a couple more options for you...


https://tciproductsusa.com/index.php...roducts_id=473

I like the unique looks of this one. Is that a little oil storage there at the front?

I think what I'd like the best is what Rick Ramsey did on his Wrr - though I'm not a natural fabricator so don't know if I'd actually do this. **Go to the 2nd section, More Skid Plate...

http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250Rmods.htm#skidplate
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:35 PM   #32799
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Rick either is, or is effectively, running the Moose plastic Skidplate I believe now. If I were going to start fresh, or just get a new plate, I'd strongly consider it myself.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:40 PM   #32800
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Rick either is, or is effectively, running the Moose plastic Skidplate I believe now. If I were going to start fresh, or just get a new plate, I'd strongly consider it myself.
I like it. Says its only for a 2008, but afaik nothing has changed that would prevent using this on a newer model?
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:55 PM   #32801
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Here's a couple more options for you...


https://tciproductsusa.com/index.php...roducts_id=473

I like the unique looks of this one. Is that a little oil storage there at the front?

I think what I'd like the best is what Rick Ramsey did on his Wrr - though I'm not a natural fabricator so don't know if I'd actually do this. **Go to the 2nd section, More Skid Plate...

http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250Rmods.htm#skidplate
Pretty sure that is the charcoal canister on the CA or 50 state model.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:09 AM   #32802
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The Honda took 1st Place.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:05 AM   #32803
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The Honda took 1st Place.
Only because it's cheap
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:14 AM   #32804
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Shocked, but not really. it's FAR cheaper and they geared the test towards shorter, less experienced riders. Honda is an obvious win.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:21 AM   #32805
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...here's an interesting little bit of info from Kalahni Prince.
Check your skidplate bolts... I know I will...


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