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Old 05-04-2013, 08:55 AM   #35266
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Yes and yes. Now I just have to figure out what to do, tire-wise & gearing. I'm pretty set on the MT43 rear, but don't know what to do on the front. I'm not too hard on tires, when riding on dirt I ride slow and cautiously and I weigh 150 pounds. The stock rear performed pretty well for me last week, but the front felt like it was sliding out too easily in sand. Taking the above and adding it to the fact that a shortish tour for me might be 1,500 miles with much asphalt - what would you guys do?
Think about the MT43 front. I have had it on for about 2500 miles and have been quite happy. Holds fine off road in SoCal and is much much better on the road than the Metzler Unicross that I had on the front. 15-17 front 12 rear on and off road with ultra heavy duty tubes and lightweight rear rim locks.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:57 AM   #35267
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Think about the MT43 front. I have had it on for about 2500 miles and have been quite happy. Holds fine off road in SoCal and is much much better on the road than the Metzler Unicross that I had on the front. 15-17 front 12 rear on and off road with ultra heavy duty tubes and lightweight rear rim locks.
We probably ride in some very similar conditions then. Did you change out your gears/chain?
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:14 AM   #35268
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Running 14/50 with a 112 link x-ring chain. Using the Sandman case saver and sprocket cover. Rear chain guide and shield just got with the 50 rear. For day to day on the street I like the 14 up front.

I have had 13/50 as well. Rode with that combo for the LA to Vegas ride and then back and then a couple more months cause I was too lazy to change it. 1800 miles-ish. 1st is a little low with the 13, but in sand, sand and more sand second and third are just right.

Both set ups had held 70 for hours on the freeway. 13/50 with more buzziness.

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Old 05-04-2013, 09:41 AM   #35269
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:05 PM   #35270
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Running 14/50 with a 112 link x-ring chain. Using the Sandman case saver and sprocket cover. Rear chain guide and shield just got with the 50 rear. For day to day on the street I like the 14 up front.

I have had 13/50 as well. Rode with that combo for the LA to Vegas ride and then back and then a couple more months cause I was too lazy to change it. 1800 miles-ish. 1st is a little low with the 13, but in sand, sand and more sand second and third are just right.

Both set ups had held 70 for hours on the freeway. 13/50 with more buzziness.

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Wow - thanks, this is a great post. I have the same case saver as well.

So my little tour is over and I had some thoughts about the dirt riding I wanted to share and ask for tips. I rode about 250 miles on dirt, and had to do practically all types of obstacles one would imagine out here: sand, very rocky dirt roads, water crossings (it is Spring :)), to some very technical (for me) slickrock on steepish hills both up and down. My sole dirt riding experience before this was the American Supercamp, which I highly recommend for newbs. I thought I did really well. For me on this trip, crashing wasn't an option and I'm glad I didn't. Really only came close once while riding on some loose Basalt around the craters in North Arizona, super slippery stuff. Yesterday, I just rode straight back from Flagstaff.

While riding, I often found that I liked lugging along in 3rd as there was so much less throttle jerkiness, I was always looking to get into 3rd gear. In more technical terrain I found that I was in 2nd the most, rarely going into 1st except to start. One issue I was having is that I had to make a real conscious effort to keep both my knees and elbows bent. If I didn't, sometimes when the front wheel dropped off something, I'd twist the throttle with often fun results :) IDK if I can do risers w/o having to deal with the throttle and clutch cables, I'm still thinking about the height.

All in all, this bike is better than me. When I would make a mistake on a line, rather that trying to get back on it, I just let the bike do its thing and it didn't let me down. Uphill with a 12" step was a butt-clencher for me, but the bike rolled over it like it was nothing. I had the bike fairly loaded down, 15 pounds of liquid and maybe another 50 pounds in camping, tools, and personal gear. It still felt nimble enough to get the job done, and I couldn't perceive anything wrong with the suspension setup.

Here's some PICS from the trip if you'd like to see them.

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Old 05-04-2013, 12:56 PM   #35271
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Not needed to change fork oil. Remove fork, remove top cap, turn upside down, drain & refill. I think the forks are 48mm
Per Yamaha specs, both WRR & WRX are 46mm forks.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:34 PM   #35272
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Per Yamaha specs, both WRR & WRX are 46mm forks.
That's why I said I ( think) they are 48
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:34 PM   #35273
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Here's some PICS from the trip if you'd like to see them.
Nice. Thanks for sharing.

question: did you consider a Giant Loop instead of the soft bags?
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:20 PM   #35274
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Nice. Thanks for sharing.

question: did you consider a Giant Loop instead of the soft bags?
Briefly. The main reason I went this way is I want the passenger seat freed up, not for a potential passenger but I want to be able to move around a lot more. Yesterday was a 500+ mile ride, I move around a lot. Also I have some hard cases that I think I can fit to these racks, and I plan on a lot of long distance touring - basically I fit the bags I already had from the Tiger.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:39 PM   #35275
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The revised factory procedure has worked fine for me since day 1. Bike on the side stand, push up on the mid-point of the chain along the underside of the swingarm. Keep about a 30mm gap, in my case 1.5 fingers, between the chain and the swingarm when you are pushing up. Oddly enough, having checked Rē's chain personally both times I've been in her presence, our chain procedures lead to nearly identical tension. HF's method is obviously more precise and accurate, but the last thing I want to do before I ride to work or get rolling on my 5th or 15th day on the trail is spend an hour checking chain tension.
Is this what you're talking about?

With the machine on the side stand and pushing up on the chain, this setting seems rather tight . . . but . . . if that's what it's supposed to be, then okay.

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Old 05-04-2013, 05:43 PM   #35276
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I'm running MT43 front and rear 12-13 PSI all the time including single track, desert, and 75MPH SoCal freeways. My only complaint is the 43 front does not like the rain grooves on the Freeway and it can be vague at times when pushing it at higher speeds off road. I plan to try a steering damper in the near future to see if it helps. I may also consider running a MT21 front but will continue with the MT43 rear as it absolutely rocks. AFWIW I am running standard tubes with slime and no rim locks. Gearing is 13/47 Primary Drive and works very nicely but think I may try 13/48 to make it perfect.

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Yes and yes. Now I just have to figure out what to do, tire-wise & gearing. I'm pretty set on the MT43 rear, but don't know what to do on the front. I'm not too hard on tires, when riding on dirt I ride slow and cautiously and I weigh 150 pounds. The stock rear performed pretty well for me last week, but the front felt like it was sliding out too easily in sand. Taking the above and adding it to the fact that a shortish tour for me might be 1,500 miles with much asphalt - what would you guys do?
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:54 PM   #35277
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Is this what you're talking about?

With the machine on the side stand and pushing up on the chain, this setting seems rather tight . . . but . . . if that's what it's supposed to be, then okay.

THANK YOU!!!





. . . and please . . . no grief about the dirty chain . . . thank you . . .
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:58 PM   #35278
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Now I just have to figure out what to do, tire-wise & gearing.
This is a good site for playing around with gearing and tire changes. Perhaps you already knew... just thought I'd mention it.

http://www.gearingcommander.com/
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:10 PM   #35279
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Some non-WR content... took my new bike on a spring road trip around Alaska.

My quick 4 day spring ride...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883959

Hey Skierd, Glad to see you are still riding a lot. I have been off the thread for a couple of years - Busy with travel.

I figured that the only way to keep up with you was to add a support vehicle for my WR.









Put on about 30K miles combined in 2 years of travel around this great country. It was my retirement dream trip, and I'm happy I did it. I have lost about 8 good friends to cancer in the past 3 years, so I wanted to get her done before it's my turn.


Below was day one of the trip - raining, of course. I just love my Hi-Vis PLATEX gloves. I turn 70 this year, and hope to still be riding when they put me in the home or in the ground.


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Old 05-04-2013, 07:04 PM   #35280
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Good on 'ya, BluePill.

This Friday I looked out my office window and I saw an RV just like yours pulling a toyhauler.
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