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Old 08-21-2013, 03:34 PM   #37381
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just wondering how much do you weigh? Im 145lbs and im not using about 2 inches of the last part of travel. Havent jumped anything huge but i go through some rough stuff.

I found this in the service manual.

Fork spring free length 450.0 mm (17.72 in)
Limit 441.0 mm (17.36 in)
Installed length 439.2 mm (17.29 in)

can i get away with using the 441mm cut spring from racetech without them having to build me a 9mm spacer?

(they stated they were going to cut a 462mm .42kg/mm spring to 441mm to get .44kg/mm)
I weigh 160. With the oil changed, both height and type, I found the forks to be a little soft for me, I could bottom them off of smaller jumps - but much more linear predictable action than before and silky smooth over small trail rough. Even with the 120mm oil height, these forks still don't seem to travel as close to the bottom casting as the std KYB 46mm offroad forks I have (even with bottoming). (These forks are NOT the off-road KYB units. They use different internals, valve diameters, etc.)

As far as the spacer goes, you might need it to get the right preload - you could try it without a spacer and if it works for you, you'd be set. If not, you could cut your own spacer out of PVC pipe or whatever.


It's strange that they need to cut a spring - there should be other springs available that meet the .44kg/mm rate that would fit the 46mm diameter KYB's. When I had the stock springs out of mine I compared them with some springs I had laying around from older YZ's and WR's , and the older 46's were just slightly shorter, less than an inch, as I recall. At the time I remember thinking I'd just cut PVC spacers to make them work if need be.

Both the spring rate and the damping collectively affect fork stiffness, with oil level also affecting total travel. That's why it wouldn't hurt just to try less and lighter oil before you go to a softer spring, you may find the oil adjustments are enough (especially if you are a cheap-skate like me).
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:19 PM   #37382
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I need a new front brake hose ASAP. I got jousted by a stick and it bent the stem of the line coming out of the master cylinder. It ovalized the hole in the eyelet end of the line, so it was pissing fluid from behind the washers. I lost the backs brakes at the same time, but kept riding for a couple of km's before pulling over to inspect. A stick had jammed under my rear brake pedal!

I had ordered a new line from the local dealer and like usual they handed me the wrong part, a one foot long hose!! Took them 3 tries to get an aftermarket airfilter, but they got the swingarm chain guard right on the second try. I have to wait 2 weeks max from Japan. Got a ride happening Sept 6,7,8.

I am searching for aftermarket lines in Canada but I guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow to call.

Does anyone know if a ZY or "F" line will work?? That's way beyond the capabilities of the local Yamy dealer to figure that one out. They had a new YZ in the showroom and the end fittings looked the same.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:29 PM   #37383
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Don't flame me...That being said, does one need to invest in a "good" pressure gauge or just any with the right range?

Thanks for the help....
aw gee, that takes all the fun out of it

The quicker answer I'll nab (the minimalist tool kit is harder...) I use a basic pencil type gauge, good quality, it's within a # of the higher priced ones. Good enuf. Also, a decent small hand air pump.

I don't normally bother changing tire pressure much though, a bit higher if I know the ride is all pavement, a bit lower if mostly dirt. I'd rather ride than fool with tire pressure.

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Old 08-21-2013, 05:07 PM   #37384
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I use a digital gauge at home, but the pencil gauge is fine for airing up and down during a ride.

Does your have the factory tool kit? If so, I wouldn't rush to buy things. I carry tire-change kit & 21" tube, hand-pump, cable ties, elec. tape, and the oem kit with a couple hex keys added.

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Don't flame me, am new and tried searching with no luck. Just got a new 2012 WR250R, love it, basically a month of reading this thread and all the good things said about this bike sealed the deal for me so, thanks I guess ?!

My questions which I am certain have been answered.
I am trying to put together a minimalist tool kit. What wrenches used most etc. Tools you couldn't live without after the years of experience you've had?

And although I have not read this entire thread (probably 500 pages or so) it seems that tire pressure changes from off road to on road are important. That being said, does one need to invest in a "good" pressure gauge or just any with the right range?

Thanks for the help....
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:25 PM   #37385
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Don't flame me, am new and tried searching with no luck. Just got a new 2012 WR250R, love it, basically a month of reading this thread and all the good things said about this bike sealed the deal for me so, thanks I guess ?!

My questions which I am certain have been answered.
I am trying to put together a minimalist tool kit. What wrenches used most etc. Tools you couldn't live without after the years of experience you've had?

And although I have not read this entire thread (probably 500 pages or so) it seems that tire pressure changes from off road to on road are important. That being said, does one need to invest in a "good" pressure gauge or just any with the right range?

Thanks for the help....
This bike is very reliable and I've never needed anything though if I were to go on a long trip I'd bring just enough to change the oil, a flat and maybe a multi-tool + hex keys. If you're just beating around the forest and your bike is well maintained you'll be fine, remembering you can't prepare for every scenario (i.e. bent rim, snapped chain)
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:52 PM   #37386
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How much for a 2009 with 2000 miles. Fmf full exhaust and big footpegs. Posted for 4500. Seems a bit high to me. Anyone else opinion?
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:01 PM   #37387
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How much for a 2009 with 2000 miles. Fmf full exhaust and big footpegs. Posted for 4500. Seems a bit high to me. Anyone else opinion?
In my opinion, it's a $3,995 motorcycle.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:03 PM   #37388
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I agree. These bikes come with too much oil in the forks which doesn't allow full travel. Mine came with 95mm (fork oil level) in one fork and 100mm in the other. I put Amsoil light 5wt in at 120 mm from the top of the compressed fork (w/o springs) and both the length of travel and smoothness of travel improved greatly. Night and day, actually.

The stock yamaha 01 oil is a little too thick too for these forks (unless you live in hot climate).
I'm with you. I lowered mine last year, and it was much better but they still rarely use more than half the travel. I'm going to go with lighter oil this winter and 120mm sounds good.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:23 PM   #37389
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I need a new front brake hose ASAP. I got jousted by a stick and it bent the stem of the line coming out of the master cylinder. It ovalized the hole in the eyelet end of the line, so it was pissing fluid from behind the washers. I lost the backs brakes at the same time, but kept riding for a couple of km's before pulling over to inspect. A stick had jammed under my rear brake pedal!

I had ordered a new line from the local dealer and like usual they handed me the wrong part, a one foot long hose!! Took them 3 tries to get an aftermarket airfilter, but they got the swingarm chain guard right on the second try. I have to wait 2 weeks max from Japan. Got a ride happening Sept 6,7,8.

I am searching for aftermarket lines in Canada but I guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow to call.

Does anyone know if a ZY or "F" line will work?? That's way beyond the capabilities of the local Yamy dealer to figure that one out. They had a new YZ in the showroom and the end fittings looked the same.
I just bought HEL brand braided steel lines from seller moto-heaven on Ebay. I asked for 2" longer front and they still shipped the same day. Ordered on the 13th, received on the 15th! They are in PA and ship worldwide. Hope this helps.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:51 PM   #37390
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Does anyone know if a ZY or "F" line will work?? That's way beyond the capabilities of the local Yamy dealer to figure that one out. They had a new YZ in the showroom and the end fittings looked the same.
I think WRF OEM lines would fit, I ordered WRF steel braid from Galfer and put them on my WRR. Not a perfect fit though.

If you can get HEL's from eBay in 2 days perhaps that's the way to go. Maybe they'll fit better too.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:24 PM   #37391
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How much for a 2009 with 2000 miles. Fmf full exhaust and big footpegs. Posted for 4500. Seems a bit high to me. Anyone else opinion?
Basically brand new. $4500 close.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:41 PM   #37392
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Hell ya you should! Did you tow the Moto Mule again this year? Nice to see ya out there tearing it up Fishy.

My little 250 has been getting quite the workout this year as well. It sure is a great little explorer bike.
Well, I got the pics uploaded so I started the report....

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Old 08-21-2013, 09:46 PM   #37393
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Great thread, thank you Sock.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:54 PM   #37394
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My questions which I am certain have been answered.
I am trying to put together a minimalist tool kit. What wrenches used most etc. Tools you couldn't live without after the years of experience you've had?
1. The tool kit wrench supplied for the rear axle nut is almost useless - too short. I carry a cheap 12 inch "breaker bar" (flex handle) with the correct 1/2" drive socket. That allows me to easily loosen and tighten the nut for chain adjustments and tire tube replacement.




2. Having bent my shifter lever a few times, and not trusting that it will bend back an infinite number of times without breaking, I replaced it and carry the old one as a spare.


3. Visually inspect and lube the handlebar end of your clutch cable from time to time, so you don't end up miles from nowhere with a broken cable. Someone told me it can really happen. :)


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Old 08-21-2013, 11:25 PM   #37395
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How much for a 2009 with 2000 miles. Fmf full exhaust and big footpegs. Posted for 4500. Seems a bit high to me. Anyone else opinion?
Too high IMO. I got my used 2009, with 633 miles, for $3800 (and then sold off $300 of farkle that came with it). Another reference point is you can get a brand new 2012 leftover for $5500-5600usd + ttl.

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