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Old 09-22-2013, 06:51 PM   #38116
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Glad your ok. Proper gear makes a world of difference in walking away from a get off. These bikes crash really well too.

Here's mine from today:



I was going around a corner on a sandy trail and my front end pushed then hooked up while it was pointed to the side of a trail. It went over a three foot bank, I jumped over the bars and landed on my hands and knees in the stinky muck and the bike just missed a steel fence blocking a culvert. Shortly afterwards a couple guys, hipsters riding vintage two strokes, came along and helped me get it on the trail. I had to use some tree branches under the front wheel to bust it loose from the stinky muck.

Bike and rider were both completely unscathed. Just stinky.
Glad you both are ok, but it brings up an issue I've been processing since I got this bike...is it just me, or are replacement parts very reasonably priced?

I mean, before I cut 4 big-assed holes in my rear fender for the ProMoto rack I looked up the replacement cost in case I screwed the pooch...$28 USD.

Seriously?

OEM replacement key? $6
Chain guard? $30
OEM oil filter? $7

Maybe I'm just used to the BMW dealer charging me $100 to walk thru the door (and then making me wait 2 weeks for ANYTHING), but so far the cost of ownership of this bike is bordering on the ridiculous. The fact that she is so cheap to keep (~$10 oil changes every 3-5k miles, 26k valves, cheap OEM parts, Timex reliability, 70MPG, etc.) is a huge part of why I love her...after a WEEK of ownership.

I was always reticent to wrench on the BMW for the fear that if I bent/broke something, not only would I get bent over in replacement costs, but I'd be down for however long it took for the lads in Dusseldorf to take pity and ship me the part.

This bike is something special.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:33 PM   #38117
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Ouch..that sux. Glad you OK overall.

What tires were you running and what pressures?
I am sooo paranoid about pushing my knobbies on pavement.

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Dunlop 606's front and rear, approx. 18 psi. It looked like a truck had
spilled some broken up rock and gravel going through the turn. The
county dump/landfill is just up the road.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:37 PM   #38118
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is it just me, or are replacement parts very reasonably priced?

I was always reticent to wrench on the BMW for the fear that if I bent/broke something, not only would I get bent over in replacement costs, but I'd be down for however long it took for the lads in Dusseldorf to take pity and ship me the part.

This bike is something special.
Compared to a BMW the parts are a lot cheaper. I am learning a ton by just getting in there and wrenching. If I break a part I can generally get a new one in a few days from places like Service Honda.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:41 PM   #38119
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Dunlop 606's front and rear, approx. 18 psi. It looked like a truck had
spilled some broken up rock and gravel going through the turn. The
county dump/landfill is just up the road.
We have a lot of gravel roads that connect to paved roads in my area, and more often than not there will be gravel on the pavement at the intersection. Probably my greatest riding paranoia.

It really takes the fun out of tight corners.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:21 PM   #38120
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:41 AM   #38121
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Dunlop 606's front and rear, approx. 18 psi. It looked like a truck had
spilled some broken up rock and gravel going through the turn. The
county dump/landfill is just up the road.
Gotcha. D606 is supposed to be a pretty good tire for street and dirt. I think it may be my next rear tire too, as I have been doing more and more pavement these days...getting to further and further trails.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:22 AM   #38122
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even after 5yrs/10,000 + (s)miles....i feel the same way, crazy good bike for what it is.



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Glad you both are ok, but it brings up an issue I've been processing since I got this bike...is it just me, or are replacement parts very reasonably priced?

I mean, before I cut 4 big-assed holes in my rear fender for the ProMoto rack I looked up the replacement cost in case I screwed the pooch...$28 USD.

Seriously?

OEM replacement key? $6
Chain guard? $30
OEM oil filter? $7

Maybe I'm just used to the BMW dealer charging me $100 to walk thru the door (and then making me wait 2 weeks for ANYTHING), but so far the cost of ownership of this bike is bordering on the ridiculous. The fact that she is so cheap to keep (~$10 oil changes every 3-5k miles, 26k valves, cheap OEM parts, Timex reliability, 70MPG, etc.) is a huge part of why I love her...after a WEEK of ownership.

I was always reticent to wrench on the BMW for the fear that if I bent/broke something, not only would I get bent over in replacement costs, but I'd be down for however long it took for the lads in Dusseldorf to take pity and ship me the part.

This bike is something special.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:21 AM   #38123
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Gotcha. D606 is supposed to be a pretty good tire for street and dirt. I think it may be my next rear tire too, as I have been doing more and more pavement these days...getting to further and further trails.
If you are riding a lot of street, hardpack, and gravel you may want to give the Shink0's 705's a shot. Definitely more street orientated than a 606 but it cost less and lasts about twice as long. Downside is it does not play well with mud.

I currently am running these on my WRR and for about 80% of what I ride they work out great. If I am going to be doing a long distance ride with unknown road conditions then I will put the XCHM front and my 606 rear back on the bike.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:36 AM   #38124
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Is 5700 miles considered "high mileage"??? That seems to be just about broken in to me.
Assuming your question is in reply to my post, 5700 is nothing on these bikes.

My point was comparing a 5700 mile bike with known damage for $3400, against what you can get for that kind of money (such as a 600 mile mint condition bike for only a couple of hundred more), yes that's a rather high price for the 'higher mileage' bike imo.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:05 AM   #38125
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If you are riding a lot of street, hardpack, and gravel you may want to give the Shink0's 705's a shot. Definitely more street orientated than a 606 but it cost less and lasts about twice as long. Downside is it does not play well with mud.

I currently am running these on my WRR and for about 80% of what I ride they work out great. If I am going to be doing a long distance ride with unknown road conditions then I will put the XCHM front and my 606 rear back on the bike.
I think the shinko's might last nearly 3 times as long
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:11 AM   #38126
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/mcy/4067342600.html

just for reference....different prices all over.

these are pretty rare around the mitten.

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same here, but they're all brand new condition, almost no mile WRRs. personally, I'd either look for a better condition one to buy, or offer $500 less for that one. $3400 is just the asking price.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:29 AM   #38127
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If you are riding a lot of street, hardpack, and gravel you may want to give the Shink0's 705's a shot. Definitely more street orientated than a 606 but it cost less and lasts about twice as long. Downside is it does not play well with mud.

I currently am running these on my WRR and for about 80% of what I ride they work out great. If I am going to be doing a long distance ride with unknown road conditions then I will put the XCHM front and my 606 rear back on the bike.
The Shinko would never work in the sand( and occasional mud) that I typically ride. The D606 is about the best road wearing/road handling "knobbie" I would get away with in the sand. The cost is just so high, I have been holding off as long as I can.

I used to run TM 2's, and they were good in the sand, but wore down fast on and offroad. I now use XCMH's( last two sets), and they work great for my offroad, but have been not too happy seeing as much pavement as they have been seeing.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:09 AM   #38128
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/mcy/4067342600.html

just for reference....different prices all over.

these are pretty rare around the mitten.

no affiliation with the seller
seems close to what I'd pay. for reference my '09 WRR was $3,950 with 2900 miles, an aftermarket tank, bark busters and skid plate in upstate NY. it had never been offroad. it has a lot more scratches now.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:13 AM   #38129
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The Shinko would never work in the sand( and occasional mud) that I typically ride. The D606 is about the best road wearing/road handling "knobbie" I would get away with in the sand. The cost is just so high, I have been holding off as long as I can.

I used to run TM 2's, and they were good in the sand, but wore down fast on and offroad. I now use XCMH's( last two sets), and they work great for my offroad, but have been not too happy seeing as much pavement as they have been seeing.
Yeah I usually don't see too much sand.

You may also want to look at the Shinko 244's. I ran sand in those before on my DR650 and they seem to handle it plenty well.. plus they are very inexpensive.

Now I am thinking about heading down to south GA on weekend and hitting some of those sand roads to see how bad the 705's will be. LOL
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:24 AM   #38130
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Yeah, I did look into the 244's too. I am sure it would do better than the 705's, but still not as good as true knobbies. Both of them would be better on the street, but luckily, I ride as little pavement as possible to get to the woods, and I have a dedicated street bike, for the street.

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