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Old 04-14-2008, 12:52 PM   #61
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I wonder how hard it would be to do it with just a good 10x12 or 12x14 poly tarp from Home Despot or Lowe's or something.

I'm actually playing around with one of the cheap blue poly tarps. Works better if it's square. Hard to get a taut pitch but does the same thing. Better than not having one.
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Old 04-14-2008, 01:07 PM   #62
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I'm actually playing around with one of the cheap blue poly tarps. Works better if it's square. Hard to get a taut pitch but does the same thing. Better than not having one.
That makes sense. In order to get something taut, it needs to stretch a little. These poly tarps aren't going to stretch.
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:25 PM   #63
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That makes sense. In order to get something taut, it needs to stretch a little. These poly tarps aren't going to stretch.
That and the catenary cut ridgline. Flat tarps flap around more.

For DIY's, here's the plans for a very good 100 sq. ft. catenary-cut silnylon tarp.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:17 AM   #64
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I just received my mosquito net. I have yet to set it up. I ended up getting the Tactical Rectangle Double, model MN723 from SCS LTD. It was a little more expensive than the REI model. But I could add a bottle of Permethrin mosquito repellent (Field Treatment Kit for $3.95) to the order.

http://www.scs-mall.com/mosquito-net...ts.asp?dept=37

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Old 04-16-2008, 08:34 AM   #65
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I just received my mosquito net. I have yet to set it up. I ended up getting the Tactical Rectangle Double, model MN723 from SCS LTD. It was a little more expensive than the REI model. But I could add a bottle of Permethrin mosquito repellent (Field Treatment Kit for $3.95) to the order.

http://www.scs-mall.com/mosquito-net...ts.asp?dept=37

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Thanks for the link to SCS, nice outfitter.

Someday I'm going to make (by make, I mean have my sister make) a custom netting. You can get bulk netting in 81" wide, that way it could be 6.5' high and fit a square tarp better.

I've had very good experience with permethrin backpacking in the PNW. I treat all my clothes especially socks. Little buggers won't go near it.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:56 AM   #66
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Get rid of the rain fly that comes with the tent, takes up too much room. Also get rid of the bag that comes with the tent and use a small stuff sack.
Good advise if it is not cold and or windy.
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:05 AM   #67
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That makes sense. In order to get something taut, it needs to stretch a little. These poly tarps aren't going to stretch.
Don't use rope, use a bungee on each corner that will keep it taught.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:57 PM   #68
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I've had very good experience with permethrin backpacking in the PNW. I treat all my clothes especially socks. Little buggers won't go near it.
I have to ask ... what's permethrin?

I've never seen or heard of it in Canada, maybe it's illegal or something? All we get is DEET for mosquitoes.
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I have to ask ... what's permethrin?

I've never seen or heard of it in Canada, maybe it's illegal or something? All we get is DEET for mosquitoes.
Permethrin is an synthetic pyrethroid insecticide, and should be handled as such. Dangerous in the liquid form. But clothing treated with permethrin has been determined to be safe. The best example of this ExOfficio BUZZ OFF clothing. Treated clothing repels insects.

I've used it for the past few years for backpacking in the Sierra's and PNW. I've bought the spray and just sprayed my clothes and I've bought bulk liquid and soaked everything at once. If you soak netting with the stuff, the mosquitos won't even go near the netting. Otherwise they congregate against your netting and as soon as there is an opening, in they go. On one llama trek I did in the Wallowas (NE Oregon) I was the only person in the group that had used permethrin and everyon else was eaten alive through their clothing, even tho they sprayed DEET heavily.

I buy permethrin from REI but I don't know if you can get it in Canada. I notice MEC doesn't carry it.
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Thanks for the info, it's very interesting. Like it was said it must be pretty wicked stuff. Did you notice on the bottom of the REI page that ExOfficio Buzz Off shirts cannot be shipped to Canada? Guess that's why I've never heard of it.

Next trip to the US I'll have to buy some and try it out.
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Posted this link a long time ago in some other thread I cannot find, but thought you tarp folks would get a kick out of it.
Didn't see how to make a duck out of a tarp, which I think is the only thing this doc misses!

http://www.equipped.com/tarp-shelters.pdf
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Permethrin is an synthetic pyrethroid insecticide, and should be handled as such. Dangerous in the liquid form. But clothing treated with permethrin has been determined to be safe. The best example of this ExOfficio BUZZ OFF clothing. Treated clothing repels insects.

I've used it for the past few years for backpacking in the Sierra's and PNW. I've bought the spray and just sprayed my clothes and I've bought bulk liquid and soaked everything at once. If you soak netting with the stuff, the mosquitos won't even go near the netting. Otherwise they congregate against your netting and as soon as there is an opening, in they go. On one llama trek I did in the Wallowas (NE Oregon) I was the only person in the group that had used permethrin and everyon else was eaten alive through their clothing, even tho they sprayed DEET heavily.

I buy permethrin from REI but I don't know if you can get it in Canada. I notice MEC doesn't carry it.
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The Permethrin kit says I can treat the net, 1 pair of pants and 1 shirt at the same time. Just roll them up togather and drop them into the supplied plastic bag. Pour in the permethrin some water and let it set for no less than 2 hours. Pull them out, let everything air dry. Once dry the clothes can be worn. The treatment should be good for 6 washings. I thought I would treat one long sleeve t-shirt and the convertable pants I'll be taking on the trip.

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Old 04-21-2008, 03:18 PM   #73
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bringing my tarp to warped

will grab a few pics to see how it works out
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:43 PM   #74
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Add a mosquito netting and you have a nice skeeter-free area to cook and relax...

How did you attach the mosquito netting to the tarp? I looked through the posts and didn't see it. Maybe I missed it?

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Old 05-04-2008, 08:40 PM   #75
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A tarp with a twist...





Kifaru Super Tarp

Warmth and under 4 pounds with the stove, poles and stakes. A killer system for the light weight crowd.
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